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Old April 22nd, 2010, 06:17 PM   #1
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Serreted edge 24 fps

Yikes, I figured the 24 fps what all were clamoring for would be better than the 30 but if anyone moves there's a serreted edge around the moving edge. I use Ciniform to convert the MOVs to AVIs then use NewBlue Color fixer etc in post. Is there a way to loose these edge serrations????

Should I always just shoot 30 fps from now on if moving folks?

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Old April 22nd, 2010, 07:40 PM   #2
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Haven't seen this at all in 4 hours of footage I've shot at 24, including a good deal of movement. I'd guess something's getting messed up in the conversion process, serrated edge sounds like interlacing.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 10:26 PM   #3
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Do you use Cineform? Should I check the "Deinterlace" or the "Convert to 24p(NTSC only)" - right now I just have "Maintain source frame format" checked
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 10:39 PM   #4
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Sounds like somewhere in your process you have interlaced ticked. What program are you editing with, and how do you have it set up and ultimately to what for render?
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Old April 23rd, 2010, 04:48 PM   #5
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Thanks Chris

Using Sony Vegas Studio 9 PE for rendering to Mp4 and using the NewBlue VE Color Fixer Plus to correct white balance etc.

I convert the MOVs to AVIs via Cineform HDLink application
In this the settings are

Automatically convert to Cineform Intermediate (*.avi) (checked)
Split file on scene changes (checked)

CineForm Encoder Options
Quality: High
Output source frame format (checked)
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Old April 23rd, 2010, 04:50 PM   #6
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Deinterlace and Convert toi 24p (NTSC only) is not checked (these are actually7 option buttons so whenever I check Maintain source frame format it unchecks these two anyway.
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Old April 24th, 2010, 12:18 AM   #7
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Harry, what version of Cineform are you using ?

My version of NeoHD does not have the exact choices you reference. See image below for my Cineform selection for Canon 24p from 5D Mark II.

However, I wonder if you inadvertantly have the Mp4 output set at interlaced ? It should also be rendered progressive. I ve also attached screen grabs of how I set up the MP4 render.
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Old April 24th, 2010, 07:52 PM   #8
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Thanks Chris!!
Reading this on an iPhone while traveling but will definitely compare and report back. Really appreciate this
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Old April 26th, 2010, 01:05 PM   #9
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I set up a new custom tmplate with your settins and the sucker rendered for about 4 hours to complete producing a mp4
I then tried to play it in VLC player and it would not play at all ...... More later

I think for now I better shoot 30 gps til I work this out

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