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April 22nd, 2010, 05:17 PM
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Serreted edge 24 fps
Yikes, I figured the 24 fps what all were clamoring for would be better than the 30 but if anyone moves there's a serreted edge around the moving edge. I use Ciniform to convert the MOVs to AVIs then use NewBlue Color fixer etc in post. Is there a way to loose these edge serrations????
Should I always just shoot 30 fps from now on if moving folks? TIA Harry
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April 22nd, 2010, 06:40 PM
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Haven't seen this at all in 4 hours of footage I've shot at 24, including a good deal of movement. I'd guess something's getting messed up in the conversion process, serrated edge sounds like interlacing.
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April 22nd, 2010, 09:26 PM
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Do you use Cineform? Should I check the "Deinterlace" or the "Convert to 24p(NTSC only)" - right now I just have "Maintain source frame format" checked
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April 22nd, 2010, 09:39 PM
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Sounds like somewhere in your process you have interlaced ticked. What program are you editing with, and how do you have it set up and ultimately to what for render?
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April 23rd, 2010, 03:48 PM
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Thanks Chris
Using Sony Vegas Studio 9 PE for rendering to Mp4 and using the NewBlue VE Color Fixer Plus to correct white balance etc. I convert the MOVs to AVIs via Cineform HDLink application In this the settings are Automatically convert to Cineform Intermediate (*.avi) (checked) Split file on scene changes (checked) CineForm Encoder Options Quality: High Output source frame format (checked)
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April 23rd, 2010, 03:50 PM
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Deinterlace and Convert toi 24p (NTSC only) is not checked (these are actually7 option buttons so whenever I check Maintain source frame format it unchecks these two anyway.
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April 23rd, 2010, 11:18 PM
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Harry, what version of Cineform are you using ?
My version of NeoHD does not have the exact choices you reference. See image below for my Cineform selection for Canon 24p from 5D Mark II. However, I wonder if you inadvertantly have the Mp4 output set at interlaced ? It should also be rendered progressive. I ve also attached screen grabs of how I set up the MP4 render.
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April 24th, 2010, 06:52 PM
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Thanks Chris!!
Reading this on an iPhone while traveling but will definitely compare and report back. Really appreciate this Harry
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April 26th, 2010, 12:05 PM
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Chris
I set up a new custom tmplate with your settins and the sucker rendered for about 4 hours to complete producing a mp4 I then tried to play it in VLC player and it would not play at all ...... More later I think for now I better shoot 30 gps til I work this out Harry
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