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Old February 5th, 2010, 07:54 PM   #106
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If Canon does go with SDXC, having two slots could make for a nice simple approach to redundant recording too (if they design it that way). SDXC capacities will eventually be utterly huge (way beyond 32GB - the spec allows up to 2 terabyte capacities, which is well into days of continuous recording time at 50Mbps), so the need to span recordings across cards would wind up being minimized more and more as SDXC card capacities increase, and eventually essentially entirely eliminated.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 10:27 PM   #107
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talk about a tease. VERY little info released on the camera from Canon tonight at Supermeet SF. if you aren't going to announce it, don't bother even saying anything. IMHO Perhaps those at the event will get more detailed info tonight. I am sure Chris is gonna grill the Canon guys.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 10:37 PM   #108
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Confirmed: one-third inch.
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Turns out they said nothing that hasn't already been said: Talked about the EOS Final Cut Pro plug-in, which they said would be "available soon" and also talked about the 4:2:2 codec.

Finally, hinted at a new camera that will "have amazing picture quality at an amazing price!" They have a prototype of a camera "under-glass" at the event, though that they didn't show during the presentation. No model number etc. He did say it has 1/3" sensors, and the prototype they were showing has a fixed lens (subtle hint that there would be one with interchangeable lenses.)

He didn't even hint that there would be an announcement shortly, which makes me jump to the big conclusion that next weeks event will NOT be an announcement of one of these cameras.
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During the SuperMeet, they highlighted Edius and Avid as being ready for the new codec - which possibly suggests they are targeting the broadcast market with their new camera.

But Bogacz didn't put out any real solid info on the camera except that it's 1/3" and solid state.
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Old February 6th, 2010, 02:18 AM   #111
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During the SuperMeet, they highlighted Edius and Avid as being ready for the new codec - which possibly suggests they are targeting the broadcast market with their new camera.
To my knowledge, Avid and Edius are the only two NLEs that can cut XDCam/XDCamEX without an import. This does more to suggest to me that the camera is using an XDCam variant and will be recognized as such by NLEs. That is a VERY good thing.
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Perrone,

Avid also edits nanoFlash files natively, which are MPEG-2. But XDCAM is also MPEG-2, so you are correct that whatever format Cannon uses could be called a variant of XDCAM.

But I think it's more accurate just to call it some form of Long-GOP HD MPEG-2.
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Avid also edits nanoFlash files natively, which are MPEG-2. But XDCAM is also MPEG-2, so you are correct that whatever format Cannon uses could be called a variant of XDCAM.

But I think it's more accurate just to call it some form of Long-GOP HD MPEG-2.
The Nano is using XDCam. In fact, it's using the same encoding chip from Sony, just at a higher bit rate. That is why it's seen as XDCam in the NLEs. If Canon have done the same thing (which is my guess) then it really is XDCam.
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Confirmed: one-third inch.
Did they confirmed CCD or CMOS by chance?
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That could be taken a couple different ways.
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Did they confirmed CCD or CMOS by chance?
1/3" CMOS would be evil. With Sony doing 1/2", that would be kinda sad. I think Canon is pretty set on CCD. But who knows, I'm surprised Canon is this late to the solid state party.
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Did they confirmed CCD or CMOS by chance?
Didn't say, I don't think.
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CCD would make this a EX killer when it comes to matchmoving and flash banding. Global Shutters and 1920x1080 at sub 10K would kill the EX (and even the HPX300 with the horrid long focal length skewing).
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CCD would make this a EX killer when it comes to matchmoving and flash banding. Global Shutters and 1920x1080 at sub 10K would kill the EX (and even the HPX300 with the horrid long focal length skewing).
As if there aren't already numerous 1/3" ccd cameras on the market... None of them seem to be killing the EX1. Nor will this Canon.
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CCD would make this a EX killer when it comes to matchmoving and flash banding. Global Shutters and 1920x1080 at sub 10K would kill the EX (and even the HPX300 with the horrid long focal length skewing).
Perhaps in the Wedding video market, but certainly not for broadcast uses, doesn't matter about the codec 1/3 inch doesn't cut it for broadcast HD
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