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Old August 13th, 2007, 04:14 PM   #1
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Rode NTG-1 and battery life

I've searched this forum for information about using this phantom-powered mic on the A1, but nothing has mentioned how it's use effects the run time of the A1's battery. It draws 3.5 mA according to the Rode specs, while something like the AT 897 draws 2. Would that difference be enough to noticabley shorten the time you could shoot on a battery? Thanks.
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Old August 13th, 2007, 04:32 PM   #2
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Hi Jim,

Let's asume you have the BP950 battery, or even better: the BP970.

The BP950 has a capacity of 5200 mAh. That means it can give the camera about 5200 mA per hour. The camera runs about 4-5 hours on that battery, so that would mean it uses about a 1000 mA per hour.
Looking at the 3.5 mA would mean that the camera would run 12.6 seconds shorter on the battery if I calculated it right.
With 2 mA it would mean 7.2 seconds. So the difference is 5 seconds shorter filming.

I don't think you have to know the results with the BP970......

3.5 mA or 2 mA are absolutely no problem......
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Old August 13th, 2007, 04:54 PM   #3
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I've been wondering about the quality of that Røde mic. It's really a low price. Has anybody used it for critical things?
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Old August 13th, 2007, 05:23 PM   #4
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Thanks, Gert. There's nothing quite like a completely factual answer.

Bill, my interest in the NTG-1 stems from my use of Rode's NT3 mic and hearing it's results played in a theater.
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Old August 14th, 2007, 02:16 AM   #5
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Rode NTG-1 and NTG-2 (same thing as far as audio goes) are the best cheap(esh) short shotguns. You would have to pay 2-3 times more to get real improvement. Many pro productions have been done with those with no complaints.
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Old August 14th, 2007, 07:58 AM   #6
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As Gert notes, the impact of the Rode mic (or the AT) on available runtime would be insignificant (less half a percent).

The Rode NTG-1/2 appear to be excellent shotgun mics for their price point. Arguably roughly comparable to the AT-897, although some people like Rode better, and some prefer AT.
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Old August 14th, 2007, 05:07 PM   #7
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I'm using an NTG1 and it's pretty decent. Audio quality wise compared with top mic's I'd give it a 6/10. I have found that even if wrapped in rubber mounted in the mic holder it picks up more handling noise than I'd like so now tend to get a mic stand and place the mic above the subjects pointing down and run a long cable to the cam.

I picked up a bargain non brand but obviously pro tie clip that runs on phantom power on eBay for £30 the other month and it's even better. I place in on the table etc pointing towards the subject.

As I work mostly in recording studios I can borrow some pretty exotic mics, I recorded a feature with Tony Visconti (producer for T Tex etc) and had a super Neuman mic, it just sounds astonishing. Used in figure 8 pickup pattern, interviewer one side and subject the other it was super crisp and kept background noise out. I think that the mic pre's on the Canon are very good as you can really hear the difference in the mics.
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Old August 14th, 2007, 05:29 PM   #8
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I just recently ordered the xh a1...I also have the at897 so when I get time this weekend I will see how well it works. Is there a post anywhere to show pictures of people xha1 setups. I would love to see them.
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Old August 15th, 2007, 04:14 PM   #9
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Not only did I answer the question. I also learned from the other reactions. I was looking around for a reasonable microphone for a while and had not heard about these two. So, thanks for the 'tip' Jim. :-)
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Old August 15th, 2007, 05:00 PM   #10
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I have the SM-5 holder for my NTG-2. Seems to do a reasonably good job at dampening things.
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Old August 16th, 2007, 12:46 AM   #11
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NTG1 is too thin for the A1 mic holder. So how you guys deal with this? Wrap some duct tape around the mic?
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Old August 16th, 2007, 02:58 AM   #12
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I use this:
http://www.rodemic.com/?pagename=Products&product=SM5

Works fine.
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Old August 16th, 2007, 07:43 AM   #13
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I have placed a couple turns of black gaffer tape around the NTG-2.
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Old August 16th, 2007, 10:27 AM   #14
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You could go to a hardware store and get a couple of O-rings to put around the mic.
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Old August 17th, 2007, 03:38 PM   #15
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I just wrap a paper towel around the mic. and kinda on the subject but an off question, but I've always just thrown a AA battery in the mic how do I use the phantom power on the cam without needing a duracell? thanks
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