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Old February 6th, 2008, 01:54 AM   #1
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Short B/W montage, Jam session at College...

some of my suitemates were jamming in our living room today and i thought i'd get the camera out and film some footage. unfortunately the light was awful, i should have manually adjusted the gain but i didn't so it's grainy, also the audio levels didn't pick up as well as i'd have liked them to, so i just put some of the decent clips to my own track.

used the B&WJECTA preset. next time i'll just shoot in color with a better preset for low indoor light and go B/W in post if i want to....

all feedback is welcome.

here it is:

http://www.vimeo.com/668122
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Old February 6th, 2008, 01:08 PM   #2
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I would think any priority "next time" would be an audio issue rather than using a particular preset. Being a musician myself, I quite honestly couldn't watch more than 30 secs or so, if even that... nothing is in sync at all here. For me, I would have chosen the original audio, no matter how bad (well, within reason ;) & edited well with some sense of continuity/sync. But then again, that's just me :)
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Old February 6th, 2008, 01:22 PM   #3
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yeah i know it's basically pointless without the original music. although, with what i did i dont know if you can expect much of it to be "in sync" considering the song was totally different than what they were playing. maybe i'll try to salvage whatever i have later on, but i basically just did it for the images.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 11:47 AM   #4
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I felt that there was no punch to the B&W. The only reason I can see for someone to use B&W in the 21st century is to create a certain look and I didn't think that happened. Maybe if you'd increased the contrast it would have had a bit more "umph."

And then there was the issue that Bill mentioned. Try to use the original sound and see what you can get.

Overall though I thought you had some nice angles and did a good job of framing. It could have worked out really well if not for those couple of things.
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Old February 8th, 2008, 12:56 PM   #5
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Haters can go to hell. Hey, man, I thought your footage was fine. Yes, a bit grainy, but some of the shots were great. I liked the tightness of some of the shots and it looked great. Keep at it.
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Old February 8th, 2008, 02:13 PM   #6
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good lord. oye :-\
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Old February 8th, 2008, 02:24 PM   #7
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Thanks Will :-)

and thanks to everyone else for their comments. I'm always learning, and at this point i try to keep a strong outer shell when it comes to criticism.... but i always appreciate positive suggestions, so thanks.

i will see if i can do anything else with this footage. i'll take some of your comments into consideration. maybe something else will click.
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Old February 8th, 2008, 04:14 PM   #8
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I Like the b/w

Russ mentioned the contrast issue. None of your shots have any true black in them, and little white. Its all shades of grey. A great b/w photo consists of the entire range from black to white. In the absence of color you are looking for textures and contrast to make the image powerful. The close-up shots of the bass and the drums are nice, would have been nicer with some contrast.
I also like the grainy images. Its your art piece, however, and how you express yourself is your decision.
Oh yea, the sound thing matters, too.
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