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Arif Syed September 19th, 2008 11:53 PM

NTG-2 on the XH-A1 mic holder...will I regret not using a shock mount?
 
or is the difference negligible? Basically, I want to keep the hot shoe for lighting.

Chris Light September 20th, 2008 12:17 AM

well, handling noise may be an issue with the NTG-2, due to the battery compartment, and the added length/weight it displays as compared to the NTG-1. I favor the NTG-1 for that very reason. but you'll probably be fine anyhow, the NTG-2 has fared well for many users who like the battery option.

-chris

Colin McDonald September 20th, 2008 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Arif Syed (Post 939890)
NTG-2 on the XH-A1 mic holder...will I regret not using a shock mount? or is the difference negligible? Basically, I want to keep the hot shoe for lighting.

Short answer, yes.

There are shockmounts which fit in the mic holder like the Rode SM-5
Rode | SM5 - Shotgun Microphone Suspension | SM5 | B&H Photo

or the J-rod
thej-rod.com

I used a Rode shotgun without the shockmount once - the zoom servo and assorted control switches could be heard operating clearly on the audio track.

Garrett Low September 20th, 2008 10:09 AM

I don't know for sure about the Rode but with my Senn ME66 without a shock mount it picks up the motor and every littel adjustment. If hand held it picked up my slight adjustments of my hand.

I made a DIY based on teh Rode SM5 with some 1/2" PVC, 2" PVC and plumbing O rings. Works great and cost me about $2 since I already had the pipes and all I had to buy were the O rings.

Tripp Woelfel September 20th, 2008 10:32 AM

The main thing that stopped me from using the on-board mic mount was when I put on the dead cat I could see the fur when zoomed out. This was not a problem with just the foam. I have the NTG-1 and I don't know if the form factor is the same, but I think it is.

I also picked up some noise from the zoom motor.

As a recommendation, I would not purchase the Rode hot shoe holder. It's very flimsy and mine broke in about 6 months.

Colin McDonald September 20th, 2008 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tripp Woelfel (Post 940087)
As a recommendation, I would not purchase the Rode hot shoe holder. It's very flimsy and mine broke in about 6 months.

Tripp, so did my Rode SM3 but it was replaced under warranty. Did you try this?

I think one has to be careful not to overtighten the locking screw when using it, though my SM3 passed away in its sleep while in the case between shoots.

Tripp Woelfel September 20th, 2008 12:33 PM

No, I didn't. After it broke, I took it apart and the loops of the main body just looked too thin. In my eyes that's a design flaw. Until Rode redesign it I'd have the same problem with a new one. I just bought a different one made out of metal.

It's interesting that I didn't over tighten it, leaving it just tight enough to keep the mic from flopping down. It came apart when I loosened the nut. Odd.

Colin McDonald September 20th, 2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tripp Woelfel (Post 940119)
No, I didn't. After it broke, I took it apart and the loops of the main body just looked too thin. In my eyes that's a design flaw. Until Rode redesign it I'd have the same problem with a new one. I just bought a different one made out of metal.

It's interesting that I didn't over tighten it, leaving it just tight enough to keep the mic from flopping down. It came apart when I loosened the nut. Odd.

That sounds familiar - I was careful not to overtighten and it was fine when put away. I noticed the plastic had collapsed round the nut when I took it out a couple of days later.

I don't think it would do any harm to tell them - their product line is usually pretty good. If there's a whole bunch of them failing they'll want to know why. It could be a materials issue as well I suppose. Anyway, I'll see how long the replacement lasts.

J.J. Kim September 20th, 2008 01:05 PM

I am glad that I checked this thread.
I have series 7 on-camera light with battery on the top so my shoe was occupied and my NTG2 was driving me crazy with motor sound and sensitivity AND I had no place to put my wireless mic receiver.
I just purchased J-Rod now and can't wait till put my shotgun and wireless reciever on it.
THank you, guys!

JJ

Shahryar Rizvi September 20th, 2008 08:17 PM

wondering about best way to use my mic (an AT-822) with my camera (XH-A1) too
 
My Canon XH-A1 arrived a few days ago and my AT-822 just arrived tonight. I was planning on using my mic with my camera sometimes with a 3/8" adaptor, but I couldn't find one. I should probably look into a better solution though looking through this thread.

Terwingen Niels September 28th, 2008 02:12 AM

Hi,

does anybody know if the NTG2 with the Rode SM5(+deadcat) comes into the frame when used on an XH A1 with/without wideangle lens?

gtrz

Lou Bruno September 28th, 2008 12:11 PM

I have the same set-up. I do not have a problem. The SM5 can be set back as well if need be which would bring the NTG2 in closer to the camera operator.

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Originally Posted by Terwingen Niels (Post 944074)
Hi,

does anybody know if the NTG2 with the Rode SM5(+deadcat) comes into the frame when used on an XH A1 with/without wideangle lens?

gtrz


Denys Pyevtsov September 28th, 2008 03:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Terwingen Niels (Post 944074)
Hi,

does anybody know if the NTG2 with the Rode SM5(+deadcat) comes into the frame when used on an XH A1 with/without wideangle lens?

gtrz

No problems here...

Terwingen Niels October 4th, 2008 02:16 AM

thanks for the info guys. this one goes into my shoppingcart...

grtz
niels

Colin McDonald October 8th, 2008 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripp Woelfel (Post 940119)
No, I didn't. After it broke, I took it apart and the loops of the main body just looked too thin. In my eyes that's a design flaw. Until Rode redesign it I'd have the same problem with a new one. I just bought a different one made out of metal.

It's interesting that I didn't over tighten it, leaving it just tight enough to keep the mic from flopping down. It came apart when I loosened the nut. Odd.

Hmmm. Mine has just gone again - it was replaced in July. What kind of Shockmount did you buy, Tripp?


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