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Old November 21st, 2007, 09:38 AM   #1
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custom presets XL2

Hi you all,

It may look stupid, but I would like to know more about the custom presets in my XL2.
Actually today was the first time I really tried them out.
But some of those settings seem to make no difference to me!
(Although I ws wearing my glasses!)
For instance the "Knee"settings - I don't see any chances
V-detail: Nothing
Coring: nothing either (I don't know what to look for, as I don't know what the word "coring" means. I'm Dutch, maybe thats why I don't understand a few things? DON'T agree with that, please!)
NR - same thing: nothing

Could someone explaine these settings a little bit to me in not too technical Engish?
In Dutch would be even better, but then I'm on the wrong forum now, I think...

Thijo
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Old November 21st, 2007, 12:46 PM   #2
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more to the same subject:

It seems there is more I "niente comprende."

I all the setting I found here on the forum, you seem to have different camera's then I do.
Here 's an example: (Wedding)
Gamma = 1
Knee = 0
Black = 2
NR = 1
VDetail = 0
Color Matrix = 1
Color Gain = 1
Color Phase = -1
Red = 0
Green = 1
Blue = 1
SetupLevel = 0
Sharpness = 2
Coring = 2
MasterPed = -1

My problem is that in my camera in gamma I have the options
Normal or Cine. So what do I do with "Gamma = 1"?
Does "1" mean Normal or Cine?
Knee options: High/Middle?Low
Black options:Strech/Middle/Press
NR options: Off/High/Middle/Low
VDetail options: Normal/Low
Color Matrix options: Normal/Cine

Or is this a difference between NTSC and PAL cams?
Not the same menu?

Or is this just me as an amateur among the pro's, just not enough knowledge?

Thijo
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Old November 21st, 2007, 12:59 PM   #3
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Run, don't walk, to http://dvcreators.net/canon-xl2/

Click "Watch the XL2 Feature Tour Video" to watch, learn and enjoy.

Hope this helps,
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Old November 24th, 2007, 01:46 PM   #4
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Watched the video

Hi Chris, I downloaded and watched the video 5 times now,
learned a lot, but I still don't get the thing with the presets, as I wrote earlier.
My problem is that in my camera in Gamma I have the options Normal or Cine.
So what do I do with "Gamma = 1"?
Does "1" mean Normal or Cine?
Knee options: High/Middle?Low
Black options:Strech/Middle/Press
NR options: Off/High/Middle/Low
VDetail options: Normal/Low
Color Matrix options: Normal/Cine

When it says "Black = 2" does that mean Strech or Middle or Press?

I would like to use the setting, but by hand, not to download into the camera.

The video give me no answer to use the setting available on the site here. I do understand the settings, but not the numbers on the downloadable custom presets.
The video showed me there are more differences between your XL2 and mine.
Mine is a PAL cam, FI. I only have a 25p or 50i framerate choice. Nothing in between, like your 30
Sorry, must be me, but help me out please.

Thijo
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Old November 24th, 2007, 02:09 PM   #5
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Thijo, the changes made in some of the settings are subtle, but appear more so on that tiny little LCD the XL2 utilizes.

The best thing to do is to just crack open your manual and do an in-depth of study of what it has to offer.

There is also this very exhaustive DVD:
http://www.theasc.com/cgibin/store/a...talogno=XL2DVD

They knocked 10 dollars off the asking price so go for it!

This will help as well in addition to the link Chris posted.

Hope this helps.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 04:24 PM   #6
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Hi Eric,

Just ordered the XL2 DVD.
But you guys don't seem to understand what I mean.
All I want to know is, after I downloaded a preset file from this forum, it gives me information what to do.
When I get into the menu, I go to custom preset, and then I want to make the changes as they are in the file.
But when in the file it says: Knee = 2,
and in my menu I only see Knee with the options High/Middle/Low,
I think 2 stands for Middle.
1 = High
2 = Middle
3 = Low
That's what I think at least.
I'd like to know this asap, as I have to shoot a film next week,
and many things for my privat life depend on the outcome of that.
Maybe I should have become a garbageman, in stead of what I try to do now.
But I like it sooooo much!

Thijo
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Old November 25th, 2007, 02:02 AM   #7
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Okay, Thijo. Got it. Yes, anytime someone uses a number like:

1 = High
2 = Middle
3 = Low

That's the formula. Same for coring, master pedal, etc, except just count in how many "clicks" on the sliding scale

1 click to right of middle mark = 1+
1 click left of middle mark = -1
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Old November 25th, 2007, 04:37 AM   #8
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Thanks Eric,

That's what I wanted to know!
Only it is a little difficult to exlpain in a language witch is not my native language.
But that's the answer to my question.
I already thought it would be something like this, but had to be sure.

Thanks again, Eric, you've been a great help.

Thijo
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