Another 16:9-4:3 Question at DVinfo.net

Richard Stiehm · July 5th, 2005, 08:54 AM

Kind of a dumb question...but I need to know
If I shoot something with my XL2 in 16:9 but need to have it shown 4:3 without letterboxing or squishing it, is there any loss in resolution or image quality when doing this? I understand the image will be cropped but I'm going to shoot with that in mind.

Or in other words while working in my editing app have the full 16:9 (960x480) frame clip within a 4:3 (720x480) time line and adjust it so its framed correctly. Thanks....

Rich Stiehm

Rob Lohman · July 7th, 2005, 04:10 AM

1. yes you will need to crop

2. yes, in theory you will loose resolution

3. yes, in theory you will loose quality.

Remember that the XL2 already is a very high resolution "SD" camera. So it
may not be noticable if you do things like that. But as always, do some tests
and see if it works or if the quality/resolution loss is too much.

Please keep us informed on your findings. Good luck!

Richard Stiehm · July 7th, 2005, 06:09 AM

Thanks for the reply Rob...

I tried it on a few clips and couldn't see any difference on my monitor. If there is any degradation, I can't see it. I'm going to bring some clips to work and see what it looks like on a good monitor. Thanks again...

Rich Stiehm

Lucinda Luvaas · July 13th, 2005, 07:41 PM

Hi,

I have a related question. I'm working on a 16:9 timeline and this is the first one for me, having only used 4:3 previously.

I'm using Adobe Premiere 6.5 and there is a setting for 16:9/NTSC DV, etc. and I chose that. It doesn't look letterboxed on my standard def tv, I don't have a 16:9 TV.

Sorry to be so new to this issue, but will the Premiere settings for 16:9 be ok? or is there something more I need to do?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I am looking on the forums to see if there's anything more I can learn.

Chris Hurd · July 13th, 2005, 08:14 PM

Lucinda, try posting this question in our Premiere forum:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=67

Lucinda Luvaas · July 13th, 2005, 08:23 PM

OK Chris, I did. If you want to get rid of it here that's fine.

July 5th, 2005, 08:54 AM	#1
Richard Stiehm New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 11	Another 16:9-4:3 Question Kind of a dumb question...but I need to know If I shoot something with my XL2 in 16:9 but need to have it shown 4:3 without letterboxing or squishing it, is there any loss in resolution or image quality when doing this? I understand the image will be cropped but I'm going to shoot with that in mind. Or in other words while working in my editing app have the full 16:9 (960x480) frame clip within a 4:3 (720x480) time line and adjust it so its framed correctly. Thanks.... Rich Stiehm

July 7th, 2005, 04:10 AM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	1. yes you will need to crop 2. yes, in theory you will loose resolution 3. yes, in theory you will loose quality. Remember that the XL2 already is a very high resolution "SD" camera. So it may not be noticable if you do things like that. But as always, do some tests and see if it works or if the quality/resolution loss is too much. Please keep us informed on your findings. Good luck! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 13th, 2005, 08:14 PM	#5
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Lucinda, try posting this question in our Premiere forum: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=67 __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

July 7th, 2005, 06:09 AM	#3
Richard Stiehm New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 11	Thanks for the reply Rob... I tried it on a few clips and couldn't see any difference on my monitor. If there is any degradation, I can't see it. I'm going to bring some clips to work and see what it looks like on a good monitor. Thanks again... Rich Stiehm

July 13th, 2005, 07:41 PM	#4
Lucinda Luvaas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 233	Hi, I have a related question. I'm working on a 16:9 timeline and this is the first one for me, having only used 4:3 previously. I'm using Adobe Premiere 6.5 and there is a setting for 16:9/NTSC DV, etc. and I chose that. It doesn't look letterboxed on my standard def tv, I don't have a 16:9 TV. Sorry to be so new to this issue, but will the Premiere settings for 16:9 be ok? or is there something more I need to do? Any help would be greatly appreciated! I am looking on the forums to see if there's anything more I can learn.

July 13th, 2005, 08:23 PM	#6
Lucinda Luvaas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 233	OK Chris, I did. If you want to get rid of it here that's fine.