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Peter Ingram · May 18th, 2009, 05:57 AM

Just wondering what the differences are between the Canon XL H1A and the XL H1S are exactly? Have seen the specs for them both but can't really pick anything substantial.

Thanks

Peter

Chris Hurd · May 18th, 2009, 07:02 AM

There's only one difference between the XL H1A and H1S.

The H1S includes the "professional" jacks -- SDI, GenLock and TimeCode.

The H1A doesn't have these connectors. See pics below. Hope this helps,

Josh Fung · May 18th, 2009, 11:59 PM

But the original XLH1 (not A or S) has those connectors... whats the point of taking it out..?

John Richard · May 19th, 2009, 07:38 AM

Gave people who did not need the HD-SDI/Genlock/Timecode jacks the option of the rest of the benefits of the XLH1 but at a lower price point.

It's not like Canon "took something out" ... they ADDED a lower cost model option - a benefit, not a negative.

Chris Hurd · May 19th, 2009, 08:45 AM

It's the exact same idea that's behind the Canon XH series:

There's the Canon XH G1S for those who need SDI, GenLock and TimeCode. Then there's the XH A1S, which doesn't have those jacks, for those who don't need SDI, GenLock and TimeCode.

Those jacks carry a $3000 premium, so it makes sense to have two separate models (one with SDI and one without SDI) at two drastically different price points. Since they cost a lot less, the non-SDI models tend to out-sell the SDI-equipped versions at a ratio of about 10:1. But, for those who need SDI, the option is there.

The older XL H1 did not have full-spec SDI in that the jack did not carry audio. In the current XL H1S, the SDI output is indeed full-spec, with audio and TC output. It's interesting to note that the older XL H1 was the very first camcorder under the $10,000 price point to include SDI. Hope this helps,

May 18th, 2009, 05:57 AM	#1
Peter Ingram Tourist Join Date: May 2009 Location: Broome Australia Posts: 2	what is the difference? Just wondering what the differences are between the Canon XL H1A and the XL H1S are exactly? Have seen the specs for them both but can't really pick anything substantial. Thanks Peter

May 18th, 2009, 07:02 AM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	There's only one difference between the XL H1A and H1S. The H1S includes the "professional" jacks -- SDI, GenLock and TimeCode. The H1A doesn't have these connectors. See pics below. Hope this helps, Attached Thumbnails __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 18th, 2009, 11:59 PM	#3
Josh Fung Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 81	But the original XLH1 (not A or S) has those connectors But the original XLH1 (not A or S) has those connectors... whats the point of taking it out..?

May 19th, 2009, 08:45 AM	#5
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	It's the exact same idea that's behind the Canon XH series: There's the Canon XH G1S for those who need SDI, GenLock and TimeCode. Then there's the XH A1S, which doesn't have those jacks, for those who don't need SDI, GenLock and TimeCode. Those jacks carry a $3000 premium, so it makes sense to have two separate models (one with SDI and one without SDI) at two drastically different price points. Since they cost a lot less, the non-SDI models tend to out-sell the SDI-equipped versions at a ratio of about 10:1. But, for those who need SDI, the option is there. The older XL H1 did not have full-spec SDI in that the jack did not carry audio. In the current XL H1S, the SDI output is indeed full-spec, with audio and TC output. It's interesting to note that the older XL H1 was the very first camcorder under the $10,000 price point to include SDI. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 19th, 2009, 07:38 AM	#4
John Richard Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Incline Village, Nevada Posts: 604	Gave people who did not need the HD-SDI/Genlock/Timecode jacks the option of the rest of the benefits of the XLH1 but at a lower price point. It's not like Canon "took something out" ... they ADDED a lower cost model option - a benefit, not a negative.