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Old September 21st, 2001, 06:00 PM   #1
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Focus problem

I'm new to this forum, and have read the watchdog site for all the problems on the xl1 focusing.

I filmed three concerts, one in green box mode, the other in 'Spotlight' mode. and the third in 'A' mode. The zoom was three quarters out. (distance 100 feet plus) Both orchestras are out of focus, (set on autofocus) i't's impossible to tell using the viewfinder, wasn't till I watched it on a monitor that i saw it.

The Watchdog site says set to the apeture to 5.6 and a high shutter speed, is this possible in spotlight or 'A' mode, or should I use TV/AV or 'M'?

Can I use it in 'A' or 'spotlight' and put on the ND filter to cure it?

I don't wan't to lug a monitor around with me always, is there an easy way to solve these problems?
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Old September 22nd, 2001, 12:03 AM   #2
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Howdy from Texas,

<< I filmed three concerts, one in green box mode, the other in 'Spotlight' mode. and the third in 'A' mode. The zoom was three quarters out. (distance 100 feet plus) Both orchestras are out of focus, (set on autofocus) i't's impossible to tell using the viewfinder, wasn't till I watched it on a monitor that i saw it. >>

You're not saying whether these concerts are outdoors in bright sunlight, or indoors at night. Makes a big difference, and I don't want to assume wrong and inadvertantly give you the wrong response.

That said -- never shoot anything in Green Box, if you're serious about it. Green Box is for your little brother or your mom, if they've never held a camcorder before. Green Box is not for shooting concerts.

Second, don't use autofocus for this kind of work. Always use manual focus. Zoom all the way in on the farthest object, push the "Push AF" button on the lens to set focus, and zoom back out. Don't touch the focus again. You've set "critical focus" and as long as you don't re-position the camera, you won't have to worry about it.

Autofocus is for when you're shooting handheld. Even then I usually use manual focus though.

<< The Watchdog site says set to the apeture to 5.6 and a high shutter speed, is this possible in spotlight or 'A' mode, or should I use TV/AV or 'M'? >>

This fix is only for when you're shooting in very bright sunlight. I don't know if it would apply to your problem because I don't know what kind of light your concerts are in.

<< Can I use it in 'A' or 'spotlight' and put on the ND filter to cure it? >>

I use "A" all the time. ND filter is for daylight shooting. Spotlight is for indoor stage work. But of course you can always experiment.

<< I don't wan't to lug a monitor around with me always, is there an easy way to solve these problems? >>

Well, the monitor *is* the easy solution. I too shoot concerts and other stage events, and I always bring a monitor for that kind of work. If you don't want to take along a big CRT monitor, you can always get a VariZoom 5.6" LCD monitor (small, lightweight, battery powered) and mount it on top of your camera. This is excellent for checking focus.

Hope this helps,
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Old September 22nd, 2001, 03:50 PM   #3
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Thanks for the advise Chris, should have said that the concerts were indoors in a theatre with stage lighting.
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Old February 5th, 2005, 06:04 PM   #4
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i shoot indoor concerts all the time.

usually set the xl1s on a tripod and forget it, but lately i have doing more with it handheld.

most of the bands i film are shot in dingy seedy clubs with bad lighting.

is there a suggested setting for these conditions?

i also encounter the back focus issue. i have read about sending the lens back to canon for a fix. is there a fee for this or perhaps some kind of common warranty type adjustment? (probably not!)
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Old February 18th, 2005, 08:08 AM   #5
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The camera has a one-year warranty. So if it's been less than a year since you bought it new, then it should be under warranty.
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Old February 18th, 2005, 12:29 PM   #6
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Re: Focus problem

<<<-- Originally posted by andy.tookey : I'm new to this forum, and have read the watchdog site for all the problems on the xl1 focusing.

I filmed three concerts, one in green box mode, the other in 'Spotlight' mode. and the third in 'A' mode. The zoom was three quarters out. (distance 100 feet plus) Both orchestras are out of focus, (set on autofocus) i't's impossible to tell using the viewfinder, wasn't till I watched it on a monitor that i saw it.

The Watchdog site says set to the apeture to 5.6 and a high shutter speed, is this possible in spotlight or 'A' mode, or should I use TV/AV or 'M'?

Can I use it in 'A' or 'spotlight' and put on the ND filter to cure it?

I don't wan't to lug a monitor around with me always, is there an easy way to solve these problems? -->>>

hello andy,

i had/ have the same problem. bought my set up last fall, several tausend dollars, first event, and my focus is on the hunt...wow
i am not a pro, but by reading the board i found out that the lighting, background, moving people, all that triggers the lence to hunt.
last night i tried the first time everything in manual, and guess what, it came out nice.
did what chris suggested. zoomed in, pushed af and never touched it again.
i do use a 7" lcd monitor and a 13 field monitor/ + vcr to see what i am taping.

good luck
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Keep in mind that the first part of this thread is 3.5 years old!
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