DV Info Net

DV Info Net (http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/)
-   CineForm Software Showcase (http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/cineform-software-showcase/)
-   -   Cineform and Avid... What's in the Works? (http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/cineform-software-showcase/135380-cineform-avid-whats-works.html)

Peter Moretti October 7th, 2008 09:27 AM

Cineform and Avid... What's in the Works?
 
David alluded to work in progress with every NLE, including Avid.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/cineform-...-neo-4k-2.html

Can this be elaborated on at all?

Thanks very much.

David Newman October 7th, 2008 09:49 AM

Nothing to announce yet.

Richard Leadbetter June 24th, 2009 10:33 AM

Just to bump this, is there any update on CineForm/Avid compatibility? What is the best way to transcode at the moment?

David Taylor June 27th, 2009 11:15 AM

We hope to support Avid more tightly in the future, but we are not totally in control of the schedule. In the mean time MetaFuze (from Avid) can convert CineForm files for use in Media Composer.

Bill Ravens June 27th, 2009 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Taylor (Post 1164258)
We hope to support Avid more tightly in the future, but we are not totally in control of the schedule. In the mean time MetaFuze (from Avid) can convert CineForm files for use in Media Composer.

Apparently LUT's cannot be applied within Metafuze, as of this time?

And a couple of other questions, if I may:
1- Transcoding of the Cineform DI seems to take much longer in Metafuze than within Avid Media Composer. Is this normal?
2- The Cineform DI is 10-bit. Yet Metafuze does not allow a 10-bit option in the compression format choice. Will this be changed?

David Taylor June 27th, 2009 08:32 PM

Bill, we're actually going to be looking more at MetaFuze in the coming few weeks. Consistent with your experience, ours also shows that it is slow. We know why, but it's a MetaFuze issue. We'll be experimenting to see if we can work around it to improve performance.

If you have Active Metadata applied on CineForm clips it can be flattened in when converting through MetaFuze - to whatever your destination format is - if you have the First Light application and the CineForm color database installed on the machine doing the conversion.

Bill Ravens June 27th, 2009 09:38 PM

Thanx for answering, David. I was hoping there was a way to define an LUT within Firstlight, then applying that LUT across some files during transcoding with Metafuze. Is that a possibility, at some time in the future?

David Newman June 27th, 2009 10:03 PM

The LUT should be applied, even in MetaFuze. A few months ago that may not have worked with MOV wrapped files, now all CineForm source will develop as First Light has set the image up.

Richard Leadbetter June 28th, 2009 05:13 AM

MetaFuze is nice but is there really no support at all for anything other than 24fps and 24fps drop frame? Seems like a rather savage drawback.

Bill Ravens June 28th, 2009 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Leadbetter (Post 1164404)
MetaFuze is nice but is there really no support at all for anything other than 24fps and 24fps drop frame? Seems like a rather savage drawback.

Agreed..........

Peter Moretti June 30th, 2009 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ravens (Post 1164289)
...

2- The Cineform DI is 10-bit. Yet Metafuze does not allow a 10-bit option in the compression format choice. Will this be changed?

That's really unfortunate. I'm assuming this is an Avid limitation not a Cineform one.

David Taylor June 30th, 2009 12:47 PM

Peter, it is an Avid limitation, but...we understand the next version of MetaFuze will support 10 bits. We still have to verify, but it's what we've been told. Hopefully we'll know more about this in the coming week or two.

Peter Moretti June 30th, 2009 07:37 PM

David,

BTW, as I'm sure you know, AMA is Avid's way of opening the program to more codecs w/o requiring a transcode. Perhaps this is a way to get Avid to work directly with Cineform files?

It seems that Avid is less set on protecting DNxHD from competition than it was in the past. And working directly w/ Avid w/o a transcode would really open up doors even futher for Cineform in the professional post world.

Is Avid working directly w/ Cineform is a real future possibility?

David Newman July 1st, 2009 08:42 AM

Yes it is a real possibility, we are working directly with Avid engineering to make this happen.

Bill Ravens July 1st, 2009 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman (Post 1165715)
Yes it is a real possibility, we are working directly with Avid engineering to make this happen.

That's the best news I've heard since I heard about FirstLight...great stuff, David.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:50 PM.

DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2018 The Digital Video Information Network