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Jon Fairhurst August 22nd, 2008 12:21 PM

FCC proposes ban on certain wireless mics
 
Proposal:
washingtonpost.com

Vote unanimous:
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6589511.html

Matt Headley August 22nd, 2008 01:13 PM

Thanks for posting this as well. I posted about his in a couple other categories as I felt it was very important for some people to know also. Thank goodness I purchased in the 600 range!

One videographer I edit for thinks Sennheiser might do something for their customers like change out the frequencies if they send them back. Let's hope so!

Chris Hurd August 22nd, 2008 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Headley (Post 923543)
I posted about his in a couple other categories ...

I have withdrawn those posts from public view. Please don't cross-post on this site.

One topic = one thread. Thanks in advance,

Wayne Brissette August 22nd, 2008 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Headley (Post 923543)
One videographer I edit for thinks Sennheiser might do something for their customers like change out the frequencies if they send them back. Let's hope so!

What makes him think this? They have already stated that they have no plans to change out their block 'C' for any other block. Basically you're stuck from what I can tell. Lectrosonics and Zaxcom are still trying to figure it out.

Wayne

Ethan Cooper August 22nd, 2008 03:45 PM

The FCC can have my wireless mics when they pry them from my cold, dead, heavily fined and taxed fingers.

Bring it on you regulatory bureaucratic weenies.

Now where did I place my tin foil hat? It helps block the interference.

Josh Bass August 22nd, 2008 03:53 PM

Well this certainly sucks! I don't use my G2 that often, just enough to justify owning it, and now I have to buy a new one?

Jarrod Whaley August 24th, 2008 01:22 AM

I guess we've all seen it coming. It's entirely likely that the current wireless technology will be completely illegal within the next few years. Here's hoping the mic companies are working on some kind of alternative.

They'd almost have to be unless they want to lose a pretty large revenue stream, I'd think.

Josh Bass August 24th, 2008 01:55 AM

Not to mention scewing every sound guy, A/V company, and videographer who needs sound out of usable non-wired equipment.

Oh yeah, and will they simply cease to work anymore, or will they work, but be forbidden?

Wayne Brissette August 25th, 2008 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Bass (Post 924120)
Not to mention scewing every sound guy, A/V company, and videographer who needs sound out of usable non-wired equipment.

Oh yeah, and will they simply cease to work anymore, or will they work, but be forbidden?

There is still a LOT of unknowns about this. However as it stands now, the only manufacturer that really has an answer to this is Zaxcom. Basically they have turned their wireless into a digital recorder with time code. You put mini-SD cards into the wireless unit and have it start recording. There are some downsides obviously, such as still needing to monitor, but that can be done in the current IFB frequency range (2.4 GHz). This is a major issue for us.

Another scheme looked at by the FCC is that a pay-for-use (like they use in the UK) band would be available, but you would have to pay to use it. Not sure what happened to that one. It may have died in committee, so to speak.

Wayne

Greg Laves August 26th, 2008 08:25 AM

Here is a reply from Sennheiser about my concerns.

FAQs: Spectrum Reallocation & White Space


Will the TV spectrum change and affect wireless microphone users?
Yes. The U.S. is in transition from conventional analog TV to digital TV. This is scheduled to be completed in February 2009. At that time, TV channels 52-69 will be reassigned to new services such as emergency communication or auctioned to companies for advanced cell phone and computer applications. This is called the digital dividend. This will affect wireless microphones operating between 698-806 MHz (generically called the 700 MHz band), such as our Evolution Wireless range C systems.


Is this the White Space issue I’ve been hearing about?
No. The White Space debate is separate and distinct from the digital dividend.


Will my C range Evolution Wireless system operate after February 2009?
Yes. You may need to coordinate around new types of services that will begin to emerge in this range after that date. These services will become active over time so many may not appear for years. Visit our web site or call our help desk periodically to stay up to date on developments in your area.

Will it be legal to operate my C range Evolution Wireless system after February 2009?
As of now, yes. The February 2009 deadline for broadcast services to vacate the 700 MHz band only pertains to full power TV stations. The FCC has not set a deadline for low power broadcast systems and equipment. We do predict this band will eventually be restricted.


I just bought an Evolution Wireless in the C range system a couple months ago. Can I trade it in for an A or B range system now?
No, but if FCC regulations do change and prohibit its operation in 2009, any one who bought a C range system before 2008 will have the opportunity to get a rebate when they purchase a new Sennheiser wireless system.
100 series C range system: Rebate = $420 – ($10 x month of ownership)
300 series C range system: Rebate = $800 – ($20 x month of ownership)
500 series C range system: Rebate = $1000 – ($25 x month of ownership)


I already have 16 channels operating range A and B. How can I add more channels to my system?
Contact one of our RF application engineers. We have a wide variety of options, including custom antenna systems with precision filtering that will allow using more channels within a limited area of spectrum.


What is the White Space debate?
There are proposals being considered by Congress that would allow new consumer electronic devices to operate in the TV bands. If passed, this legislation would also affect wireless mic users. However, many steps will need to happen before any of the proposals come to a vote.


If the legislation is passed, has there been any consideration for preventing interference to wireless mics from proposed white space devices?
Yes, the FCC has acknowledged the need to prevent interference to digital TV and wireless mics from white space devices (WSD). The FCC is currently conducting tests on WSD prototypes. Any WSD submitted to the FCC for consideration must include a sensing feature that “sniffs” the air for active frequencies and avoids them. Lab tests are being conducted now. Field test will be conducted later this year. We will keep you posted on developments.

JC 7/3/08

Chris Hurd August 26th, 2008 08:41 AM

Many thanks for posting this, Greg -- much appreciated!

Josh Bass August 26th, 2008 11:26 AM

Oh. . .so we're all freakin' out over nothin'?


PS, Chris Hurd, every time I've tried to reply to a topic in the last week or so, I get a "invalid link specified" message. I have to go back in my browser to the page before I tried to reply, do it again, and then it's fine. I don't know if it's just a Safari thing or what.

Ethan Cooper August 26th, 2008 11:32 AM

Josh - Does it on Firefox too.

Josh Bass August 26th, 2008 11:58 AM

I can't tell if you're asking me or telling me, but if you're asking, yes it's doing in Firefox as well.

Ethan Cooper August 26th, 2008 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethan Cooper (Post 925138)
Josh - Does it on Firefox too.

Oops, forgot the opening "It".

So when do we get the final word on this mic issue?


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