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Old September 13th, 2012, 10:44 AM   #31
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Re: New Sony PMW-150 XDCAM 422

I hear you. Their does seem to be a battle as to which to buy...the 150/160/200 or the 700. I think for me it's becoming more clear. Is my job a run and gun which lends itself to the 200 or if it's the later then the 700 fits that bill. Sadly, I can't afford both and there lies the battle for me.
I need all the jobs I can get and so I'm thinking I'll focus my resources on the run and gun gear and maybe pick up a cheaper dslr for my creative stuff when I want more shallow dof.
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Old September 14th, 2012, 11:01 AM   #32
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I am excited about this camera, I was looking at the PMW-200 but as I film outdoor events I was worried about the heat vents on the 200. However since the PMW-150 has 3*1/3 sensors these don't seem to be needed.
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Old September 14th, 2012, 11:11 AM   #33
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All 3 of the new PMW-100 to 200 range have the same vents on the rear bodies. I've been told that the production cameras should have fewer vents and that the internals are protected from water and dust by internal barriers.
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Old September 14th, 2012, 11:17 AM   #34
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All 3 of the new PMW-100 to 200 range have the same vents on the rear bodies. I've been told that the production cameras should have fewer vents and that the internals are protected from water and dust by internal barriers.
Ahhh I was looking at the PMW-150 from CV ( Sony PMW-150 (PMW150) 3 x 1/3inch CMOS HD Camcorder with 50Mb/s internal recording ) and didnt seen the vents that were on the PMW-200 ( Sony PMW-200 (PMW200) Full HD XDCAM EX 1/2inch CMOS camcorder with 50Mb/s recording )

Here is want happens to my cameras :

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And thats filming in these very dusty conditions

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Old September 15th, 2012, 03:49 AM   #35
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Know those conditions well. I used to shoot the WRC for many years. Rain covers and camera gloves were always used along on the dustier events. I'd want a longer lens than the PMW handies for rallies.
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Old September 15th, 2012, 06:43 AM   #36
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Yeah that was from Portugal which is probably the worse for dust! I'm going to need to test the PMW150 and PMW-200 and see what fits right for me. I will just have to enforce some extra dust cover DIY jobbie.

The lens reach doesn't seem to be a problem to me but I haven't used the camera yet; the spec seems of the lens seems okay. The PMW-200 has the fujinon lens and the PMW-150 has the Sony G lens? Of course you will get more reach with the 150 due to the crop factor.
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Old September 15th, 2012, 01:46 PM   #37
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Of course you will get more reach with the 150 due to the crop factor.
Not because of the crop factor but because of the zoom ratio. The 150 is actually wider than the 200 at the wide end. The lenses are made to match the sensor size, so the PMW-200's is a 5.8 - 81.2 mm while the PMW-150 has a 4.1 - 82.0 mm. The PMW-150 lens is just a little wider than the PMW-200, but because it is a 20x a fair bit more telephoto on the long end.

One thing I would check out is the zoom speeds. The 150 may not be quite as controllable as the 200. In addition the round and round servo focus ring of the 150 may not be as easy to use as the proper focus ring on the 200, especially when pulling focus on a fast moving car. I always used a zoom demand to get decent lens control while doing whip pans etc. The PMW-200 lens would be better suited to that as you can use a proper zoom demand via a simple adapter cable.

We used to use 20x zooms with 2x extenders and often used to tune the lenses to get faster zoom speeds.
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Old September 16th, 2012, 12:53 PM   #38
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You have swayed me back to the PMW-200 and I will have to invest in some proper all weather protection for dust and the cold temps of Lapland in January! From your website I see you might be out there the same time as me Jan 20th - 28th
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Old September 16th, 2012, 03:29 PM   #39
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If your going to be in Rovaniemi then we'll be about another 300 miles north of you in Karasjok, Norway. I'm there from Jan 30th to Feb 14th. When it gets below -25c most rain covers will shatter like glass. We got down to -36c last year.
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Old September 16th, 2012, 03:39 PM   #40
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Yeah I will be in and around Rovaniemi, not sure I will have the funds for the PMW-200 by then so it will be a last attempt film with my trusty Z1/MRC1K.

Will have to ask you a couple of questions on PM and not to take this topic off course.
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Old October 25th, 2012, 11:47 AM   #41
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Haven't seen PMW-160 referred to anywhere.
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So is it a PMW-150 or PMW-160? ....confused
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Old October 25th, 2012, 03:20 PM   #42
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So is it a PMW-150 or PMW-160? ....confused
150 seems to be the PAL model and 160 seems to be the NTSC
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Old October 25th, 2012, 04:15 PM   #43
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Not quite right. The PMW-150 is PAL only, but the PMW-160 does PAL and NTSC.
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Old October 25th, 2012, 04:17 PM   #44
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Not quite right. The PMW-150 is PAL only, but the PMW-160 does PAL and NTSC.
Fair enough. I can't make my mind up between all three models PMW-100, PMW-150 and PMW-200

Not really got the funds for any of them but need to replace my Z1 and can't work out if I'd be happy with PMW-100 as a full time replacement.

PMW-150 price is so close to the PMW-200 but a long way from the 100.

Stuck between rock and hard place.
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Old October 25th, 2012, 04:29 PM   #45
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If you're moving up from the Z1, you'll be very happy with any of the three new cameras. The features , functions, XDCAM workflow, and picture quality are light years ahead of what you are used to.
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