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Old September 7th, 2012, 04:55 AM   #1
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New Sony PMW-150 XDCAM 422

Sony releases another XDCAM 422 camera, this one with three 1/3" chips:

CVP blog & more Archives Sony 50Mb/s range expands with new PMW-150 camcorder

Sony strengthens its XDCAM HD422 Range adding a High Performance Handheld Camcorder and SxS Field Gear : Press : Sony Professional
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Old September 7th, 2012, 05:05 AM   #2
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Re: New Sony PMW-150 XDCAM 422

Surprised there is no mention of the ClearVid pixel arrangement as found in the Z5U or NX5. I do question if it is truly full raster. I'm also guessing that it is a Sony G series lens as found on the NX5.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 05:27 AM   #3
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Surprised there is no mention of the ClearVid pixel arrangement as found in the Z5U or NX5. I do question if it is truly full raster. I'm also guessing that it is a Sony G series lens as found on the NX5.
These are all-new sensors, according to the press releases. And why would you doubt full raster chips? It's been done for years.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 06:46 AM   #4
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Maybe now with the new sensors they have a NX5U upgrade but with AVCHD 2.0 as the top of the AVCHD line before going to SxS and 50 Mbps 422 ? I for one would look forward to that. I like my NX5U but would like improved sensors and the other features of AVCHD 2.0 like 60P

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Old September 7th, 2012, 07:19 AM   #5
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I question full raster on 1/3'' since previous 3 chip 1/3'' cameras from Sony almost all use the ClearVid pixel arrangement which interpolates pixels. That would not equal full-raster from the sensor.

Sensitivity is slightly behind 1/2'' counterparts (the 200, EX1 and EX3) being 2 stops less sensitive and 1 stop behind the HPX250 with P.A.P. filter TYPE1, which may be direct competition for this camera.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 08:05 AM   #6
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I question full raster on 1/3'' since previous 3 chip 1/3'' cameras from Sony almost all use the ClearVid pixel arrangement which interpolates pixels. That would not equal full-raster from the sensor.

Sensitivity is slightly behind 1/2'' counterparts (the 200, EX1 and EX3) being 2 stops less sensitive and 1 stop behind the HPX250 with P.A.P. filter TYPE1, which may be direct competition for this camera.
The Sony press release does say Exmor rather than Clearvid .

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Old September 7th, 2012, 10:21 AM   #7
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Re: New Sony PMW-150 XDCAM 422

Okay, now I'm really confused. B&H is listing this camera as the PMW-160, with three 1/3" chips and a 20x Sony lens. The estimated price is $1500 more than the PMW-200, which isn't even out yet and has three 1/2" chips. I see no advantages to the PMW-160 except for the 20x lens, so why the new model and why the high cost ?
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Old September 7th, 2012, 10:25 AM   #8
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Re: New Sony PMW-150 XDCAM 422

Sony also Tweeted PMW-160. Is this another model?

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Old September 7th, 2012, 10:42 AM   #9
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Re: New Sony PMW-150 XDCAM 422

I did a bit more looking - it appears that B&H has the wrong model number. There are some references in Japanese to the PMW-160, but everything else in Europe and the Americas shows PMW-150. Maybe a different designation in Japan ? The weight and size stats for the PMW-150 and the PMW-200 are nearly identical : weight (unloaded/loaded) for the 150 is 2.1/2.5 kg, and for the 200 is 2.3/2.7 kg. Size in cm for the 150 is 172x164x326, and for the 200 is 172x164x317. It would seem to me that the 150, although having a longer telephoto Fujinon (not Sony) lens, should be cheaper than the 200. Has B&H got the estimated price wrong too ?
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likely PAL vs. NTSC model designation...
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Old September 7th, 2012, 11:32 AM   #11
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Re: New Sony PMW-150 XDCAM 422

The price difference between 150 and 200 in CVP is 1400 GBP which sounds realistic.
In effect the 150 is the Mpeg422 version of the NX5 They share the same lens but on the 150 is stabilized which is great.
In the CVP link it also states that: "its sensors are all-new devices with a native resolution that allows full-HD output without pixel interpolation."
So its not clearvid.
By the way, Ron Evans, a exmor sensor can be clearVid also as is the case of NX5
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Old September 7th, 2012, 12:18 PM   #12
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Re: New Sony PMW-150 XDCAM 422

In UK prices seem to be GBP 4650+tax for PMW-200 and GBP 3995 for the PMW-150.
Haven't seen PMW-160 referred to anywhere.
Suspect cock-up on B&H's part.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 12:39 PM   #13
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50 mbps and 20x zoom? I'm paying attention now.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 01:01 PM   #14
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Re: New Sony PMW-150 XDCAM 422

At least it had ND.

Personaly I'll take a EX1 w/ the same Fuji lens & 1/3" full raster chips if it comes in at a price close to the Panasonic AC160 or JVC HM600.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 02:21 PM   #15
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Re: New Sony PMW-150 XDCAM 422

Sony added link of this camcorder on facebook.

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