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Old April 8th, 2013, 07:12 AM   #16
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4K support likely means external recorder needed, although BM could certainly offer a reasonably priced 4K recorder.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 08:07 AM   #17
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True.

Just preordered the BMC 4K with EF mount. Thought I better get in early for this one (you cant get much earlier than before the official launch I guess)!
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Old April 8th, 2013, 08:28 AM   #18
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Simon, where did you pre-order from?
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Old April 8th, 2013, 08:35 AM   #19
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CVP in the UK. They usually get stock before everyone else. The deposit is refundable in case it drags on too long - but at least this way I'm in somewhere near the front of the line.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:10 AM   #20
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Disappointed to see that same ill-conceived form factor in play, but then again, it could change by the production model.
I'm more surprised and amused... You'd think someone would have told them how bad it is.

Wait... I'll be near their booth... I will!
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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:16 AM   #21
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mm.. Ultra portable Super 16 digital cinema with wide 13 stops dynamic range for 1K, no more "wish I had my camera with me" moments. Can't wait to see what image it outputs and how it performs in low light.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:33 AM   #22
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I'm more surprised and amused... You'd think someone would have told them how bad it is.

Wait... I'll be near their booth... I will!
S35 sensor, 13 stops DR, 4K, Global Shutter, Compressed Raw, ProRes..etc...@ $4,000?

Yeah, tell them what they're doing wrong!
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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:58 AM   #23
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If the pocket cam does have an active M4/3 mount this camera is going to be very attractive to GH2 users who have been on the fence about upgrading to the GH3. Even those who already have a GH3 may want to get this camera. For the price of a GH body it almost seems like a no brainier even if it does have limitations like very hard to get super wide angle and so forth. Honestly I could see using both in productions. Sometimes I shoot stuff I don't even want to hack and want just a regular bitrate. You will not be able to do that with the BM so for me having both could be practical.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 10:04 AM   #24
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Lets not also forget the only camera on the planet for $995.00 that records 4:2:2 in camera. Who knows it may even do 4:4:4. Blackmagic typically doesn't care about restricting this sort of thing like other companies do. If it does do ProRes444 consider it sold. Even considering it may be a native bayer 1080p sensor and nowhere near raw detail of true 4:4:4 it does help. I have keyed a lot of RED 4k 4:4:4 to know you don't gain much but even a little bit helps.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 10:13 AM   #26
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If it supports 1080/60p, it's a winner in my books. S35 Global Shutter for only $4000 is amazing.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 10:21 AM   #27
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$995 for 13 stops, 1080p, raw and Prores? SOLD! It'll look great on top of my modded Steadicam Smoothie.

Get the upcoming M43/EF speedbooster to go wider and shallower DOF, adaptability with Leica and Zeiss glass - can't wait for image samples. The DNG's from the current BMCC are awesome despite its shortcomings - batteries, drives, that dreadful LCD - which for me is a deal breaker. The Pocket Cinema Camera's price tag makes it much easier to live with any issues.

Hopefully Black Magic has solved the production and delivery issues because the demand for these cameras is going to be high. Canon/Sony/Panasonic/Red just got sucker punched for the second year in a row. Pending image samples - this is the end of my Nex ownership.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 11:13 AM   #28
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Both cameras shipping in July according to Grant Petty.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 11:21 AM   #29
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Yes...but July of which year ;-)
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Old April 8th, 2013, 11:22 AM   #30
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You got me there, the email doesn't say which year :-)
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