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Old March 13th, 2007, 06:40 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by Patrick Moreau View Post
The Se was only abot $1k. What would your point be there?

I can get a one chip camera and spend a lot more time trying to get comparable results and in the end, the quality will be lower and I have spent a lot more time. If the R200 is up to your standards, great for you, it is an awesome solution for many. I just had many problems and would not endorse it. For somebody using the unit to make money, I would strongly recomend a pro machine such as the Bravo SE as I would also recommend pro cameras and equipment, over low end stuff like the Epson with a sanded down DVd tray and generic ink.... I get your point though, you like the more affordable solution.
My point, was that I was curious as to what your system cost! Sorry if I ruffled your feathers!

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Old March 13th, 2007, 07:38 PM   #32
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I like the result of my Epson R800 with printable DVDs. However, the printer seems to be falling apart, with rollers dropping left and right. The printer works marvelously for printing on discs, but it no longer can print on paper. This is my second R800, which was replaced by the extended warranty on my first R800 which also lost rollers. I've had some trouble (both R800s) with the sliding plastic tray fitting into the machine, so I suspect all of that reinsertion caused the rollers to pop.
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Old March 13th, 2007, 07:41 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by Mike Teutsch View Post
My point, was that I was curious as to what your system cost! Sorry if I ruffled your feathers!

Well in that case- oops. I thought you were implying something else.

The SE is a great entry level option for automated printing and their ink is only $40 for about 200 discs, which in my opinion, are very high quality. It is a harder argument to make comparing an Epson to a $2500-4500 printer for smaller runs and a small business but I think the Bravo SE is an excellent option that won't break the bank.
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Old March 15th, 2007, 02:31 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by Andy Harding View Post
Hi Graham just out of intrest how does your ink hold up in the Bravo II? E.G how many full colour discs do you get per cartridge set on avarage?
Hi Andy

The ink is fine on the Bravo - I reckon to get well over 1000 discs per cartridge... before you fall off your chair(!) - most of the discs are simple black text with a coloured logo.

There's loads of control over print quality, but even at the best res doesn't compare to a "proper" litho printed disc. At a guess you'd probably get aboput 300 full colour prints per cartridge.

Hope this helps...
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Old March 15th, 2007, 08:34 AM   #35
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Cool thanks for the info Graham that's a great help.
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Old March 15th, 2007, 09:36 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by Kit Hannah View Post
Was wondering what DVD printer you were using to print on DVDs, how cost effective it is for you, how fast, etc. Are consumables expensive for your printer?
I used to use the Epson Stylus 960. You manually feed the DVD into the printing mechanism. This made DVD printing much quicker than the newer 200 - 300 models.
It finally broke. After several trips to the repair shop I replaced it with a 260. I couldn't believe how slow it is. (The same speed as my wife's 300 without the push/pull problem.)
I print as much as 400 DVDs per day so to attempt to use the 260 would have put me out of business.

I took the plunge and bought a Primera Bravo Pro (printer only) which has a capacity of 100 discs per load. The robotics are quick as well as the actual printing.

Even though the ink cartridges (two) are much larger they seem to use less ink per disc.

For me the Bravo Pro is cost effective because I can concentrate on editing and other tasks that bring in more money per hour than manually feeding discs for hours at a time. As with most businesses, I consider the human labor factor the most expensive component of running a business.
To reload the disc holders for a one hundred disc run only takes a few seconds. BTW, with a little shopping around you can cut as much as 1/3 or more off the list price.
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