See the Sony HVR-M10e in action! at DVinfo.net

Chris Hurd · March 1st, 2005, 10:05 AM

Here's a cool little Flash video (requires Flash plug-in) which shows you exactly how the Sony M10 HDV deck loads and operates. It's about the size of a Mac Mini. If you're curious about this deck, you should check this out. Thanks to Mike Curtis of HD For Indies for the link.

Sean M Lee · March 1st, 2005, 12:05 PM

no linky : )

Bryan McCullough · March 1st, 2005, 01:26 PM

http://www.dvdstudiopro.ch/m10e/

I wish this deck was about $1000 cheaper. I'd love to have one, but I couldn't spend the mone on it knowing that I could have another FX1 for the same price.

Chris Hurd · March 1st, 2005, 03:52 PM

Dang! Always forgettin' to include the link -- thanks Bryan,

Steve Connor · March 1st, 2005, 05:00 PM

It's a nice deck, basically it's just a Z1 without a camera, menus function the same, even the screen is the same. It plays very nicely with FCP express both in and output.

It is very small!

It cost us the same as our DSR 25

Filip Kovcin · March 5th, 2005, 02:10 AM

so where is that flash type link?

filip

Heath McKnight · March 5th, 2005, 08:56 AM

After three years of using my cameras as VTRs, I'm going back to actual VTRs, because it's heck on the heads. I'm sending the HD10 back in to JVC to get fixed.

heath

Sean M Lee · March 5th, 2005, 09:51 AM

the Plus to this deck is that it adds Component Ins to the equation.

Graeme Nattress · March 5th, 2005, 12:21 PM

Component in is only Standard Def. Also the deck doesn't take big DVCAM tape - what were Sony thinking??

Graeme

Sean M Lee · March 5th, 2005, 01:57 PM

no way!
Are you serious? That's insane. Seriously.

Heath McKnight · March 5th, 2005, 05:29 PM

I agree, how dim is that?

heath

Graeme Nattress · March 5th, 2005, 06:26 PM

I also thought the tape mechanism looked rather camcordery. Still, I think the key thing the deck is missing is SDI. With that in place it would have integrated into anyone's existing HD workflow - without it, and with still no Firewire to SDI converter on the market, it cannot slot directly into existing HD workflows.

Graeme

Steve Connor · March 6th, 2005, 03:53 AM

Yes but it only costs £1850 UKP what on earth do you expect for that price!

The mechanism is very "camcorder like" because I think it IS a camcorder mechanism, looks like it was lifted straight from the Z1, hence the low price.

I would imagine Sony will have an SDI HDV deck at NAB but it will cost significantly more, after all how much does the cheapest SDI DV deck cost?

Graeme Nattress · March 6th, 2005, 05:24 AM

I doubt Sony will have a more pro deck coming out. I don't know why they didn't adapt a DSR-11 or DSR-25 type mechanism? When I queried the Sony Canada guy about it, he didn't say anything, but there was a lot of readind between the lines going on, but the one thing I seemed to pick up that was with HDV, that was sort of about it. As for the addition of SDI, I think Sony could do that very affordably if they wanted to, especially when you look how little BMD SDI cards cost these days. I suspect that a) the deck really comes from the consumer side of the company (hence camcorder mechanism and no big tapes) and b) Sony are still trying to avoid errosion of pro sales.

At last NAB they talked about the Miranda Firewire to HD SDI converter for HDV, and I've still not seen real product. With such a box anyone could drop HDV into a pro workflow in about 15 minutes. I wonder why Sony are leaving such a critical component up to a 3rd party?

Filip Kovcin · March 6th, 2005, 06:58 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Sean M Lee : the Plus to this deck is that it adds Component Ins to the equation. -->>>

i do not understand this - you are talking about hvr -M10?

maybe is my english - but is are you saying that M10 has component input?

filip

March 1st, 2005, 10:05 AM	#1
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	See the Sony HVR-M10e in action! Here's a cool little Flash video (requires Flash plug-in) which shows you exactly how the Sony M10 HDV deck loads and operates. It's about the size of a Mac Mini. If you're curious about this deck, you should check this out. Thanks to Mike Curtis of HD For Indies for the link. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 1st, 2005, 03:52 PM	#4
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Dang! Always forgettin' to include the link -- thanks Bryan, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 5th, 2005, 02:10 AM	#6
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	so where is that flash type link? filip __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

March 5th, 2005, 08:56 AM	#7
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	After three years of using my cameras as VTRs, I'm going back to actual VTRs, because it's heck on the heads. I'm sending the HD10 back in to JVC to get fixed. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

March 5th, 2005, 12:21 PM	#9
Graeme Nattress RED Problem Solver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,365	Component in is only Standard Def. Also the deck doesn't take big DVCAM tape - what were Sony thinking?? Graeme __________________ www.nattress.com - filters for FCP

March 1st, 2005, 12:05 PM	#2
Sean M Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indy Posts: 160	no linky : )

March 1st, 2005, 01:26 PM	#3
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	http://www.dvdstudiopro.ch/m10e/ I wish this deck was about $1000 cheaper. I'd love to have one, but I couldn't spend the mone on it knowing that I could have another FX1 for the same price.

March 1st, 2005, 05:00 PM	#5
Steve Connor Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 383	It's a nice deck, basically it's just a Z1 without a camera, menus function the same, even the screen is the same. It plays very nicely with FCP express both in and output. It is very small! It cost us the same as our DSR 25

March 5th, 2005, 09:51 AM	#8
Sean M Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indy Posts: 160	the Plus to this deck is that it adds Component Ins to the equation.

March 5th, 2005, 01:57 PM	#10
Sean M Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indy Posts: 160	no way! Are you serious? That's insane. Seriously.

March 5th, 2005, 05:29 PM	#11
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I agree, how dim is that? heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

March 5th, 2005, 06:26 PM	#12
Graeme Nattress RED Problem Solver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,365	I also thought the tape mechanism looked rather camcordery. Still, I think the key thing the deck is missing is SDI. With that in place it would have integrated into anyone's existing HD workflow - without it, and with still no Firewire to SDI converter on the market, it cannot slot directly into existing HD workflows. Graeme __________________ www.nattress.com - filters for FCP

March 6th, 2005, 03:53 AM	#13
Steve Connor Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 383	Yes but it only costs £1850 UKP what on earth do you expect for that price! The mechanism is very "camcorder like" because I think it IS a camcorder mechanism, looks like it was lifted straight from the Z1, hence the low price. I would imagine Sony will have an SDI HDV deck at NAB but it will cost significantly more, after all how much does the cheapest SDI DV deck cost?

March 6th, 2005, 05:24 AM	#14
Graeme Nattress RED Problem Solver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,365	I doubt Sony will have a more pro deck coming out. I don't know why they didn't adapt a DSR-11 or DSR-25 type mechanism? When I queried the Sony Canada guy about it, he didn't say anything, but there was a lot of readind between the lines going on, but the one thing I seemed to pick up that was with HDV, that was sort of about it. As for the addition of SDI, I think Sony could do that very affordably if they wanted to, especially when you look how little BMD SDI cards cost these days. I suspect that a) the deck really comes from the consumer side of the company (hence camcorder mechanism and no big tapes) and b) Sony are still trying to avoid errosion of pro sales. At last NAB they talked about the Miranda Firewire to HD SDI converter for HDV, and I've still not seen real product. With such a box anyone could drop HDV into a pro workflow in about 15 minutes. I wonder why Sony are leaving such a critical component up to a 3rd party? __________________ www.nattress.com - filters for FCP

March 6th, 2005, 06:58 AM	#15
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	<<<-- Originally posted by Sean M Lee : the Plus to this deck is that it adds Component Ins to the equation. -->>> i do not understand this - you are talking about hvr -M10? maybe is my english - but is are you saying that M10 has component input? filip __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas