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Jason McCormy December 3rd, 2008 11:33 AM

Uncompressed HD
 
Is there some sort of attachment for a laptop express slot that would allow you to take in uncompressed HD from the JVC component out and preview it on the laptop as well as record it uncompressed on the laptop?

In my searching, I've seen lots of references to recording HDV from the firewire port of a JVC to a laptop, but not the component out.

Or, am I nuts.

Brian Luce December 3rd, 2008 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason McCormy (Post 972237)
Is there some sort of attachment for a laptop express slot that would allow you to take in uncompressed HD from the JVC component out and preview it on the laptop as well as record it uncompressed on the laptop?

In my searching, I've seen lots of references to recording HDV from the firewire port of a JVC to a laptop, but not the component out.

Or, am I nuts.

It can be done but you need some crazy raid. And I don't know what hardware you need. Laptop might be a tough sell.

Jason McCormy December 3rd, 2008 12:50 PM

Ok, so to record it in the higher bandwidth intencity of HD you would need an extremely fast system? Hmm. The laptop is just a core2duo 2gig with 4 gigs of ram and two 320 gig 7200 harddrives. I don't think I can configure them as raid.

It was an idea.

Jerry Porter December 3rd, 2008 12:58 PM

Nevermind...

Alex Pitstra December 3rd, 2008 09:03 PM

On a MacBook Pro I guess you could use the Matrox MXO2. You have component inputs on that, and it's fairly portable.
Don't know if there is such a thing for PC's.

In addition you could attach an external eSata drive to your laptop, possible by using a eSata expansion card to provide the connection for faster transfer speeds.

Phil Balsdon December 4th, 2008 05:52 AM

AJA IoHD

AJA Video - Serial Digital Video Interface and Conversion

Tim Dashwood December 4th, 2008 11:17 AM

Jason. Others have mentioned the MXO2 and ioHD for use on the Macbook Pro. Both products support component YRB input. I'll explain further.

The Matrox MXO2 is purpose-built to capture uncompressed 10-bit to a Macbook Pro using a proprietary interface card in the ExpressCard34 slot. I'm not sure if a FW800 drive would maintain the bit rate for you... maybe two in a RAID would work best.
The MXO2 also supports ProRes422 HQ which would be considered a lossless codec that could be captured to a FW800 drive (or possibly a FW400 drive.)

The Aja IoHD supports the capture of ProRes 422 over firewire 800. I do not believe it is capable of full uncompressed, and I'm not even sure if it can do ProRes422 HQ or just ProRes422.
You would also have to research how well it would work with external FW400 or FW800 drives connected to a MacbookPro. eSATA connection to external drive might be the ideal solution.

Ed Dooley December 4th, 2008 11:27 AM

The MXO2 can capture 720P or 1080i with at least DuoCore 2.4ghz laptop, but not 1080P, you need a QuadCore for that. The IoHD captures to ProRes in hardware, so it can use any DuoCore laptop over 2.33ghz, but it needs more horsepower to do native DVCProHD (they don't say how much more, they recommend putting your DVCProHD into a ProRes timeline to make it work).
Ed

Tim Dashwood December 4th, 2008 11:31 AM

Thanks for the clarification Ed.
Do you know if either of these products can do real-time preview from sequences other than ProRes422?

Brian Luce December 4th, 2008 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Dashwood (Post 972876)
Jason. Others have mentioned the MXO2 and ioHD for use on the Macbook Pro. Both products support component YRB input. I'll explain further.

The Matrox MXO2 is purpose-built to capture uncompressed 10-bit to a Macbook Pro using a proprietary interface card in the ExpressCard34 slot. I'm not sure if a FW800 drive would maintain the bit rate for you... maybe two in a RAID would work best.
The MXO2 also supports ProRes422 HQ which would be considered a lossless codec that could be captured to a FW800 drive (or possibly a FW400 drive.)

Tim, doesn't this mxo2 also allow a basic computer monitor to do legitimate color correcting? If so, seems like a great product.

Marc Colemont December 4th, 2008 05:28 PM

Yes it does. It does even do real-time HDMI and component or composite a out at once

Jason McCormy December 7th, 2008 10:50 AM

Thank you very much for the suggestion. I really like this Matrox device and think it might be perfect. I have a Macbook pro that would work perfectly I think.

Steve Oakley December 7th, 2008 08:10 PM

MXO2 is 1/2 the price of the AJA IOhd, 1/2 the weight, and can run on 12V batteries with an extra cable ( MXO2 power connector -> XLR 4 )

or just look at the video I did for matrox here using a HD100 to shoot :)

Matrox MXO2 - Watch video

Brian Luce December 8th, 2008 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Oakley (Post 974432)
MXO2 is 1/2 the price of the AJA IOhd, 1/2 the weight, and can run on 12V batteries with an extra cable ( MXO2 power connector -> XLR 4 )

or just look at the video I did for matrox here using a HD100 to shoot :)

Matrox MXO2 - Watch video

Great stuff. By all accounts this seems to be an awesome product.

Terry VerHaar June 18th, 2009 09:52 PM

Component In?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Oakley (Post 974432)
MXO2 is 1/2 the price of the AJA IOhd, 1/2 the weight, and can run on 12V batteries with an extra cable ( MXO2 power connector -> XLR 4 )

or just look at the video I did for matrox here using a HD100 to shoot :)

Matrox MXO2 - Watch video

I am also interested in this product with the idea of shooting directly into it from my HD-110 via the analog component connectors. Steve, is this by any chance how you shot this piece? Does anyone have experience with the quality of the output from the HD-110 component ports?

Thanks.


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