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Michael Estepp · July 28th, 2003, 10:28 AM

Hey folks,
Im about to go buy a new system, and I have a small window to do it in. Since I don't have a lot of time to do all the research I would normally do, I wanted to call apon you. I have been looking around at Dell and HP, but their custimization options are weak. I have about 3grand to spend on a system. I need to be able to edit and put out a DVD right away. I use Vegas 4.0 and I am using both DV and analog cameras. Any suggestions would be great! I really can't get screwed on this one.

Thanks Folks
Michael

Michael Estepp · July 28th, 2003, 10:55 AM

I also wanted to add, I am thinking of these two cards. The Canopus DV Raptor RT + Protools... and the Canopus ADVC 100 that would cost $685.

Imran Zaidi · July 28th, 2003, 11:11 AM

Is Vegas 4.0 compatible with the Canopus DV cards? I had heard that they weren't but I don't have a Canopus card so I don't know personally.

Edward Troxel · July 28th, 2003, 11:44 AM

Any standard OHCI card works with Vegas. Most systems now have built-in firewire which should work fine. However, you will need some means of converting analog to digital if your camera will not do so. Many people use a Canopus ADVC-100 for this purpose. As for the system, I would start with 1 Gig RAM, as fast of a processor as I could afford, and as much hard drive as I could afford. Preferably separate hard drive(s) for video/audio.

Imran Zaidi · July 28th, 2003, 11:55 AM

Beyond just OHCI compatibility, what I mean was, in reviews I've read about Canopus' DVStorm2, for example, is that if you want to take advantage of its realtime capabilities, you have to use Premiere. Has anyone out there tried to use DVStorm2 with Vegas?

Edward Troxel · July 28th, 2003, 12:28 PM

Vegas will NOT use any real-time features of any card. IF the Storm 2 has an OHCI driver, it could be used for normal capture and PTT.

Michael Estepp · July 28th, 2003, 01:25 PM

I called Sonic Foundry and talked to a CR... they said both of the Canopus cards I want work fine with Vegas... also, they work fine with a direct firewire card.
Does anyone have suggestions for the actual system? AlienWare is too expensive, Dell and HP have limited custimization.... im sort of at a loss. Buying computers has changed a lot.

Christopher Go · July 28th, 2003, 01:56 PM

How about DVLine?

Bill Ravens · July 28th, 2003, 02:51 PM

It's fairly simple to build your own system. If you go to someplace like newegg.com, you can price out all the components. There's a lot of options available for the custom home builder, and for the daunting explorer who has no knowledge, gaining it is fairly simple. There's nothing quite like the feeling of putting power for the first time to all that investment...LOL

My last build included the following:

ASUS P4PE Deluxe Mobo
Intel 3.06 GHz 533 FSB CPU
2 sticks of 512 Mb Corsair PC2700 DDR
20 Gig Western Dig HD w 8Mb cache
120 Gig Western Dig HD w 8mb cache
ATi Radeon 9000 video card
ADC Pyro 1394 a firewire card (400 Mb/sec)
Sony DRU-500ax DVD burner
Echo Mona sound card
Vegas4 + DVDA software

The system works great.
Current buyers may want to consider the following :

ASUS P4X800
Intel 3.0 GHz 800 FSB CPU
2 sticks 512 Mb Corsair XMS PC3200 DDR
1394b firewire card (800Mb/sec)
Western Dig SATA Hard drives

Mike Rehmus · July 28th, 2003, 05:55 PM

RT with Canopus products does NOT require Premiere. The alternatives are the Canopus Rex/Storm/Raptor-Edits or their new Edius software.

I would recommend the Storm card over the RaptorRT and the external conversion box.

Not certain I would believe that Vegas is directly supported by anything other than the Canopus OHCI card in the Canopus stable.

July 28th, 2003, 10:28 AM	#1
Michael Estepp Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 95	New System Hey folks, Im about to go buy a new system, and I have a small window to do it in. Since I don't have a lot of time to do all the research I would normally do, I wanted to call apon you. I have been looking around at Dell and HP, but their custimization options are weak. I have about 3grand to spend on a system. I need to be able to edit and put out a DVD right away. I use Vegas 4.0 and I am using both DV and analog cameras. Any suggestions would be great! I really can't get screwed on this one. Thanks Folks Michael

July 28th, 2003, 05:55 PM	#10
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	RT with Canopus products does NOT require Premiere. The alternatives are the Canopus Rex/Storm/Raptor-Edits or their new Edius software. I would recommend the Storm card over the RaptorRT and the external conversion box. Not certain I would believe that Vegas is directly supported by anything other than the Canopus OHCI card in the Canopus stable. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

July 28th, 2003, 10:55 AM	#2
Michael Estepp Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 95	I also wanted to add, I am thinking of these two cards. The Canopus DV Raptor RT + Protools... and the Canopus ADVC 100 that would cost $685.

July 28th, 2003, 11:11 AM	#3
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	Is Vegas 4.0 compatible with the Canopus DV cards? I had heard that they weren't but I don't have a Canopus card so I don't know personally.

July 28th, 2003, 11:44 AM	#4
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Any standard OHCI card works with Vegas. Most systems now have built-in firewire which should work fine. However, you will need some means of converting analog to digital if your camera will not do so. Many people use a Canopus ADVC-100 for this purpose. As for the system, I would start with 1 Gig RAM, as fast of a processor as I could afford, and as much hard drive as I could afford. Preferably separate hard drive(s) for video/audio.

July 28th, 2003, 11:55 AM	#5
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	Beyond just OHCI compatibility, what I mean was, in reviews I've read about Canopus' DVStorm2, for example, is that if you want to take advantage of its realtime capabilities, you have to use Premiere. Has anyone out there tried to use DVStorm2 with Vegas?

July 28th, 2003, 12:28 PM	#6
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas will NOT use any real-time features of any card. IF the Storm 2 has an OHCI driver, it could be used for normal capture and PTT.

July 28th, 2003, 01:25 PM	#7
Michael Estepp Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 95	I called Sonic Foundry and talked to a CR... they said both of the Canopus cards I want work fine with Vegas... also, they work fine with a direct firewire card. Does anyone have suggestions for the actual system? AlienWare is too expensive, Dell and HP have limited custimization.... im sort of at a loss. Buying computers has changed a lot.

July 28th, 2003, 01:56 PM	#8
Christopher Go Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 429	How about DVLine?

July 28th, 2003, 02:51 PM	#9
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	It's fairly simple to build your own system. If you go to someplace like newegg.com, you can price out all the components. There's a lot of options available for the custom home builder, and for the daunting explorer who has no knowledge, gaining it is fairly simple. There's nothing quite like the feeling of putting power for the first time to all that investment...LOL My last build included the following: ASUS P4PE Deluxe Mobo Intel 3.06 GHz 533 FSB CPU 2 sticks of 512 Mb Corsair PC2700 DDR 20 Gig Western Dig HD w 8Mb cache 120 Gig Western Dig HD w 8mb cache ATi Radeon 9000 video card ADC Pyro 1394 a firewire card (400 Mb/sec) Sony DRU-500ax DVD burner Echo Mona sound card Vegas4 + DVDA software The system works great. Current buyers may want to consider the following : ASUS P4X800 Intel 3.0 GHz 800 FSB CPU 2 sticks 512 Mb Corsair XMS PC3200 DDR 1394b firewire card (800Mb/sec) Western Dig SATA Hard drives