Interview camera below $2000 at DVinfo.net

Gerdy Vandermeersch · August 17th, 2010, 08:04 AM

Hello fellows.

A colleague of me wants to buy a camera for the city. It mostly gonna be used to do interviews.
The budget is $2000, which one is the best choice at the moment?

Thanks in advance...

Michael Gruich · August 17th, 2010, 08:41 AM

Personally, I was thinking about this last week myself. Although the HD cameras out there have plenty to offer, I find my self drawn to the look of the Panasonic DVX100b that I used before going HD. With the built in controls, you are able to get some work that still stands up quite well today. A good used one in great condition with extras, cna be found for about $1350.00.

Brian Luce · August 17th, 2010, 10:55 AM

Jvc HD110 is a fantasic, slick pro looking 720p gem of a camera purchasable for two shakes of a lamb's tail. Great for interviews esp when paired with a Firestore because of long record times and redundancy. Make sure to pick one with the upgraded IDX or AB battery.

Gerdy Vandermeersch · August 18th, 2010, 03:52 AM

Indeed,

The Jvc HD110 and the Panasonic DVX100b are both great and have a reasonable price when they are used. But it has to be a new one, because it's for the city. Any other good camcorders for that price?

Thanks a lot in advance

Perrone Ford · August 18th, 2010, 05:56 AM

Boy, this leaves things rather wide open. I'd almost be inclined to say look at the Panasonic GH1.

Advantages over traditional offerings include:

1. MUCH smaller. Operator can work out of a small bag. Very handy for interviews
2. Tapeless.
3. VERY quiet.
4. Excellent lens options
5. 1080p HD.
6. Lovely colors without having to do a lot of post work
7. Fairly small files
8. Lovely DOF which is near impossible to get in a common video camera
9. Doesn't need a ton of light to look good. This means your light package and camera package can travel in a single case.

Disadvantages over traditional cams

1. Clients may scoff at the size (until they see the footage)
2. NLE needs to be compatible on the back end, or conversion needs to be done
3. Controls will require some hand-on time to learn
4. Audio isn't so great so might need a small audio recorder to go with it.

Honestly, for $2k, this is the direction I'd go. It's inexpensive, small, easy, you can do an hour interview on a small card, you don't even need to plug it in which is terrific for outdoor interviews. Unlike the Canon's it can record until you run out of card space or battery.

Robert Turchick · August 18th, 2010, 11:25 PM

Panny HMC40...
Just finished a 60 min documentary with 28 interviews taken over 7 months and the camera never missed a beat and looks fantastic.
It's at the edge of your price range so hopefully your budget will allow for SDHC cards, mics, lights, tripod.
Very satisfied! And it's not even my camera!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/625605-REG/Panasonic_AG_HMC40PJU.html
It says to add to cart to see actual price but it's under $2k.
(if I add it to my cart, I might be tempted to buy one! HaHA!)

Gerdy Vandermeersch · August 19th, 2010, 02:20 AM

Hey Robert and others...

The HMC40 is indeed the best choice I guess. Can you choose another format than the MPEG4 AVC/H.264 in the settings of the camera. Or is it the only format for the AVCHD camera... Maybe stupid question...

Because I noticed now that there are not many editing solutions for this format. Only the better editing software like for example premiere pro CS4 gives you the possibility to edit. Or is this not true?

The camera needs to have an output that is editable with very basic software like (windows movie maker or Imovie) Or is it to much we ask...?

Thanks in advance fellows!

G

Mike Beckett · August 19th, 2010, 07:44 AM

Gerdy,

The HMC41 (in Europe) only records to the AVCHD MPEG format, with .MTS files.

You might want to look at the JVC HM100 which is very similar. There are some offers on at the moment which have taken it under £2000 in the UK, though I'm not sure how much it costs in your part of Europe. It has two SDHC slots and records to .MOV file for Apple guys as well as MPEG4 for Windows people.

The HMC41 with XLR unit is around £2000 to £2100, which again is likely to be outside your €2000 price range.

I have to admit, I would struggle to use Windows Movie Maker for any HD video editing from these sorts of cameras. You need something like Premiere Pro CS5 to edit these videos comfortably. It would probably struggle to edit HD from any of the cameras mentioned in this thread.

Do you need HD? You may be able to pick up (say) a used Panasonic DVX100 or equivalent that produces ordinary widescreen DV video and gives you XLR inputs for audio.

Does your €2000 cover just the camera? If you have to add new editing software, maybe a new PC, a microphone or two and a tripod, it would add considerably to the price. Hence my suggestion of the second-hand DV camera.

Jim Andrada · August 21st, 2010, 08:32 PM

How about something like Sony Vegas for editing (Windows)? Or Edius etc?

Robert Turchick · August 21st, 2010, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerdy Vandermeersch

Hey Robert and others...

The HMC40 is indeed the best choice I guess. Can you choose another format than the MPEG4 AVC/H.264 in the settings of the camera. Or is it the only format for the AVCHD camera... Maybe stupid question...

Because I noticed now that there are not many editing solutions for this format. Only the better editing software like for example premiere pro CS4 gives you the possibility to edit. Or is this not true?

The camera needs to have an output that is editable with very basic software like (windows movie maker or Imovie) Or is it to much we ask...?

Thanks in advance fellows!

G

Only format is avchd. Even with my badarse mac pro I transcode to prores which is editable by fcp and premier pro. I'm sure imovie would work with it too as well as fcp express.
I own cs5 premier pro though I don't use it I knew that it could edit avchd natively so I muddled through and sure enough, works great. I'm an fcp guy though and don't mind the transcode. (someday apple might upset me enough or drop support for fcp and I'll switch!)

I think you will find most saying transcode is the way to go and it's about 1/3 real time which is way better than tape.

Hope this helps!

Gerdy Vandermeersch · August 23rd, 2010, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Beckett

Gerdy,

The HMC41 (in Europe) only records to the AVCHD MPEG format, with .MTS files.

You might want to look at the JVC HM100 which is very similar. There are some offers on at the moment which have taken it under £2000 in the UK, though I'm not sure how much it costs in your part of Europe. It has two SDHC slots and records to .MOV file for Apple guys as well as MPEG4 for Windows people.

The HMC41 with XLR unit is around £2000 to £2100, which again is likely to be outside your €2000 price range.

I have to admit, I would struggle to use Windows Movie Maker for any HD video editing from these sorts of cameras. You need something like Premiere Pro CS5 to edit these videos comfortably. It would probably struggle to edit HD from any of the cameras mentioned in this thread.

Do you need HD? You may be able to pick up (say) a used Panasonic DVX100 or equivalent that produces ordinary widescreen DV video and gives you XLR inputs for audio.

Does your €2000 cover just the camera? If you have to add new editing software, maybe a new PC, a microphone or two and a tripod, it would add considerably to the price. Hence my suggestion of the second-hand DV camera.

Hey Mike,

Thank you very much with your help. Well, the city wants to be prepared for future projects. It would be perfect if they can choose between HD and SD.

The € 2000 only covers the camera. There is other money for a tripod and other accessories. I guess the € 2000 is just to low for a good camera with their needs. They probably go for a smaller model and a not so professional one.

Mike Beckett · August 23rd, 2010, 06:19 AM

Gerdy,

If you couldn't go for a higher spec camera, then maybe something like the Panasonic TM700 (or the equivalent from Sony, Canon etc). Most of the advantages of the HMC41 but without XLR, and at half the cost.

You could probably get away with the 3.5mm mic output (I believe it has headphone output too). You can always add a Zoom H4 recorder later and synch the audio in post.

The above would get pretty professional results if used correctly. The problem I see for you is editing, I really don't think that Windows Movie Maker is any use for AVCHD, which is what most of these camcorders produce. The latest Premiere Elements (€100 or less) should cope, but I haven't used that so cannot confirm.

August 17th, 2010, 08:04 AM	#1
Gerdy Vandermeersch Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ieper, Belgium Posts: 75	Interview camera below $2000 Hello fellows. A colleague of me wants to buy a camera for the city. It mostly gonna be used to do interviews. The budget is $2000, which one is the best choice at the moment? Thanks in advance...

August 18th, 2010, 05:56 AM	#5
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	Boy, this leaves things rather wide open. I'd almost be inclined to say look at the Panasonic GH1. Advantages over traditional offerings include: 1. MUCH smaller. Operator can work out of a small bag. Very handy for interviews 2. Tapeless. 3. VERY quiet. 4. Excellent lens options 5. 1080p HD. 6. Lovely colors without having to do a lot of post work 7. Fairly small files 8. Lovely DOF which is near impossible to get in a common video camera 9. Doesn't need a ton of light to look good. This means your light package and camera package can travel in a single case. Disadvantages over traditional cams 1. Clients may scoff at the size (until they see the footage) 2. NLE needs to be compatible on the back end, or conversion needs to be done 3. Controls will require some hand-on time to learn 4. Audio isn't so great so might need a small audio recorder to go with it. Honestly, for $2k, this is the direction I'd go. It's inexpensive, small, easy, you can do an hour interview on a small card, you don't even need to plug it in which is terrific for outdoor interviews. Unlike the Canon's it can record until you run out of card space or battery. __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

August 18th, 2010, 11:25 PM	#6
Robert Turchick Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,389	Panny HMC40... Just finished a 60 min documentary with 28 interviews taken over 7 months and the camera never missed a beat and looks fantastic. It's at the edge of your price range so hopefully your budget will allow for SDHC cards, mics, lights, tripod. Very satisfied! And it's not even my camera! http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/625605-REG/Panasonic_AG_HMC40PJU.html It says to add to cart to see actual price but it's under $2k. (if I add it to my cart, I might be tempted to buy one! HaHA!) __________________ The older I get, the better I was!

August 17th, 2010, 08:41 AM	#2
Michael Gruich New Boot Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: IOWA Posts: 22	Personally, I was thinking about this last week myself. Although the HD cameras out there have plenty to offer, I find my self drawn to the look of the Panasonic DVX100b that I used before going HD. With the built in controls, you are able to get some work that still stands up quite well today. A good used one in great condition with extras, cna be found for about $1350.00.

August 17th, 2010, 10:55 AM	#3
Brian Luce Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,290	Jvc HD110 is a fantasic, slick pro looking 720p gem of a camera purchasable for two shakes of a lamb's tail. Great for interviews esp when paired with a Firestore because of long record times and redundancy. Make sure to pick one with the upgraded IDX or AB battery.

August 18th, 2010, 03:52 AM	#4
Gerdy Vandermeersch Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ieper, Belgium Posts: 75	Indeed, The Jvc HD110 and the Panasonic DVX100b are both great and have a reasonable price when they are used. But it has to be a new one, because it's for the city. Any other good camcorders for that price? Thanks a lot in advance

August 19th, 2010, 02:20 AM	#7
Gerdy Vandermeersch Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ieper, Belgium Posts: 75	Hey Robert and others... The HMC40 is indeed the best choice I guess. Can you choose another format than the MPEG4 AVC/H.264 in the settings of the camera. Or is it the only format for the AVCHD camera... Maybe stupid question... Because I noticed now that there are not many editing solutions for this format. Only the better editing software like for example premiere pro CS4 gives you the possibility to edit. Or is this not true? The camera needs to have an output that is editable with very basic software like (windows movie maker or Imovie) Or is it to much we ask...? Thanks in advance fellows! G

August 19th, 2010, 07:44 AM	#8
Mike Beckett Trustee Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Antrim, Northern Ireland Posts: 1,569	Gerdy, The HMC41 (in Europe) only records to the AVCHD MPEG format, with .MTS files. You might want to look at the JVC HM100 which is very similar. There are some offers on at the moment which have taken it under £2000 in the UK, though I'm not sure how much it costs in your part of Europe. It has two SDHC slots and records to .MOV file for Apple guys as well as MPEG4 for Windows people. The HMC41 with XLR unit is around £2000 to £2100, which again is likely to be outside your €2000 price range. I have to admit, I would struggle to use Windows Movie Maker for any HD video editing from these sorts of cameras. You need something like Premiere Pro CS5 to edit these videos comfortably. It would probably struggle to edit HD from any of the cameras mentioned in this thread. Do you need HD? You may be able to pick up (say) a used Panasonic DVX100 or equivalent that produces ordinary widescreen DV video and gives you XLR inputs for audio. Does your €2000 cover just the camera? If you have to add new editing software, maybe a new PC, a microphone or two and a tripod, it would add considerably to the price. Hence my suggestion of the second-hand DV camera.

August 21st, 2010, 08:32 PM	#9
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	How about something like Sony Vegas for editing (Windows)? Or Edius etc?

August 23rd, 2010, 06:19 AM	#12
Mike Beckett Trustee Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Antrim, Northern Ireland Posts: 1,569	Gerdy, If you couldn't go for a higher spec camera, then maybe something like the Panasonic TM700 (or the equivalent from Sony, Canon etc). Most of the advantages of the HMC41 but without XLR, and at half the cost. You could probably get away with the 3.5mm mic output (I believe it has headphone output too). You can always add a Zoom H4 recorder later and synch the audio in post. The above would get pretty professional results if used correctly. The problem I see for you is editing, I really don't think that Windows Movie Maker is any use for AVCHD, which is what most of these camcorders produce. The latest Premiere Elements (€100 or less) should cope, but I haven't used that so cannot confirm.