MOON ECLIPSE & A Missing Jumbo Jet...

Dan Euritt · March 17th, 2006, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Davies-Patrick

You’ve guessed it…I can’t find the clips where the jumbo jet raced across the moon…

that's why i got the fs-4... i haven't used tape in months.

Jack Smith · March 17th, 2006, 10:20 PM

Thanks for the info.I have emailed Les and await his reply.I hope you don't mind that I told him I got his name from you.

Bob Hart · March 18th, 2006, 11:17 AM

On reflection, I did have a sort of a moment like the jumbo about 9 months back.

I was testing a long lens on the PD150 (home made adaptor) and was tracking aircraft landing at Jandakot. A student pilot was doing touch and goes in a Grob Tutor. When he lifted off again, things became a bit messy, a little bit exciting too for a moment because the aircraft was starting to point my way. In the excitement, when I buttoned the camera on I double buttoned and it shut off again - moment lost.

Somehow the student managed to sort the mess out. On full power he staggered back along the direction of the runway and eventually found the source of his problem - flaps fully down on take-off. A most forgiving aircraft the Grob.

Rob Lohman · March 18th, 2006, 01:51 PM

How about a picture of that? Here's one of mine with my XL1S:

www.visuar.com/DVi/moon.jpg

I'm not sure what settings I was on (it was the standard 16x lens), it is a bit "soft" (probably shot in frame mode instead of interlaced).

Pretty hard to find in your viewfinder, zoomed in :)

Tony Davies-Patrick · March 19th, 2006, 04:28 AM

Rob - that image does look quite soft to me. You'll find that using a prime 100mm telephoto Nikkor or Canon FD lens will provide a big improvement (both 100mm and 16X will be equal to approximately an SLR 700mm lens frame).

A longer quality telephoto lens, such as a 300mm FL or ED lens provides an image that almost fills the frame, with incredible quality.

It is such a pity that it is not also possible to use fast, pro-level wide prime lenses to obtain a wide image on the XL cameras.

Regarding trying to find the moon using a 16X or 20X lens at the telephoto setting...you should try using an SLR 600mm lens!
The moon is so big, and speeds across the frame so fast, that I've found the best method is to first find the moon in the frame, and then move the lens to point very slightly to the left so the moon is out of shot. Now lock the tripod head completely down solid. Press the wireless remote control to start the camera recording, and then watch the moon come into view, slide slowly across the frame, and then disappear out of the top right hand corner of the frame. (If your tripod is level, the moon will not move level across the frame, but will travel in a slight arc, from left bottom corner to top right corner.) The final results can look spectacular.

Bob Hart · March 19th, 2006, 10:01 AM

Rob.

Is it okay to send the .jpg image to your email address as quoted here, as an attachment?

Rob Lohman · March 19th, 2006, 02:32 PM

Sure, I can put it up on a site for all to see if you want.

Rob Lohman · March 20th, 2006, 09:38 AM

Funny, I mixed things up a bit. My question was originally for Tony's shot of the jumbo jet infront of the moon :) But thanks for the pics Bob ;)

March 18th, 2006, 01:51 PM	#19
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	How about a picture of that? Here's one of mine with my XL1S: www.visuar.com/DVi/moon.jpg I'm not sure what settings I was on (it was the standard 16x lens), it is a bit "soft" (probably shot in frame mode instead of interlaced). Pretty hard to find in your viewfinder, zoomed in :) __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 19th, 2006, 04:28 AM	#20
Tony Davies-Patrick Trustee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 1,589	Rob - that image does look quite soft to me. You'll find that using a prime 100mm telephoto Nikkor or Canon FD lens will provide a big improvement (both 100mm and 16X will be equal to approximately an SLR 700mm lens frame). A longer quality telephoto lens, such as a 300mm FL or ED lens provides an image that almost fills the frame, with incredible quality. It is such a pity that it is not also possible to use fast, pro-level wide prime lenses to obtain a wide image on the XL cameras. Regarding trying to find the moon using a 16X or 20X lens at the telephoto setting...you should try using an SLR 600mm lens! The moon is so big, and speeds across the frame so fast, that I've found the best method is to first find the moon in the frame, and then move the lens to point very slightly to the left so the moon is out of shot. Now lock the tripod head completely down solid. Press the wireless remote control to start the camera recording, and then watch the moon come into view, slide slowly across the frame, and then disappear out of the top right hand corner of the frame. (If your tripod is level, the moon will not move level across the frame, but will travel in a slight arc, from left bottom corner to top right corner.) The final results can look spectacular. __________________ www.WILDCARP.com www.NIKON.me.uk

March 19th, 2006, 02:32 PM	#22
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Sure, I can put it up on a site for all to see if you want. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 20th, 2006, 09:38 AM	#23
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Funny, I mixed things up a bit. My question was originally for Tony's shot of the jumbo jet infront of the moon :) But thanks for the pics Bob ;) __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 17th, 2006, 10:20 PM	#17
Jack Smith Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ontario Posts: 445	Thanks for the info.I have emailed Les and await his reply.I hope you don't mind that I told him I got his name from you.

March 18th, 2006, 11:17 AM	#18
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,476	On reflection, I did have a sort of a moment like the jumbo about 9 months back. I was testing a long lens on the PD150 (home made adaptor) and was tracking aircraft landing at Jandakot. A student pilot was doing touch and goes in a Grob Tutor. When he lifted off again, things became a bit messy, a little bit exciting too for a moment because the aircraft was starting to point my way. In the excitement, when I buttoned the camera on I double buttoned and it shut off again - moment lost. Somehow the student managed to sort the mess out. On full power he staggered back along the direction of the runway and eventually found the source of his problem - flaps fully down on take-off. A most forgiving aircraft the Grob.

March 19th, 2006, 10:01 AM	#21
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,476	Rob. Is it okay to send the .jpg image to your email address as quoted here, as an attachment?