New HPX3100 P2 camera due in October

Rajiv Attingal · August 30th, 2010, 07:00 AM

No 720/50/ 60 option in this camera

http://pro-av.panasonic.net/en/sales...PX3100_pre.pdf

Looks like a low cost 3ccd Full HD camera. It is referred as "2/3 Type 3CCd ".
Not sure what they mean by " type". May be pixel shifting or something like.
A 2/3 Type 3CCD in a HPX 370 Body. I expect a price target of less than 20K.

Rajiv

Glen Vandermolen · August 30th, 2010, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajiv Attingal

No 720/50/ 60 option in this camera

http://pro-av.panasonic.net/en/sales...PX3100_pre.pdf

Looks like a low cost 3ccd Full HD camera. It is referred as "2/3 Type 3CCd ".
Not sure what they mean by " type". May be pixel shifting or something like.
A 2/3 Type 3CCD in a HPX 370 Body. I expect a price target of less than 20K.

Rajiv

Just 1080 flavors of HD.

I believe they're full raster 1920x1080 chips. By "type," I think they were referring to these chips being CCDs, not CMOS. It wasn't the best translated brochure.
So, a full raster 1920x1080, 2.2 megapixel 2/3" 3CCD camera with AVC-intra 100 and 4:2:2 color, all in a lighter 370 body. Sounds really good to me.

I don't consider a camera on the plus side of $30,000 being "low cost." I wish it were below 20K.

Steve Phillipps · August 30th, 2010, 09:04 AM

I'm assuming it'll the exact same chip and processing as the HPX3000. Seems like they've put it in a smaller body and made some mechanical tweaks to keep power consumption down, and to give an excuse for putting it at a lower price - the 2700, 3700 and 3000 all seemed way over-priced, it's been commented on a lot, and was evidenced by them suddenly halving the price with their trade-in offer.
Steve

Robin Probyn · August 31st, 2010, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen Vandermolen

Just 1080 flavors of HD.

I believe they're full raster 1920x1080 chips. By "type," I think they were referring to these chips being CCDs, not CMOS. It wasn't the best translated brochure.
So, a full raster 1920x1080, 2.2 megapixel 2/3" 3CCD camera with AVC-intra 100 and 4:2:2 color, all in a lighter 370 body. Sounds really good to me.

I don't consider a camera on the plus side of $30,000 being "low cost." I wish it were below 20K.

I agree the 3700 seems a bit pricey.. although the most exp camera I have bought was my first a Sony 400AP.. which was the same price as an average house in the UK at the time.. with the VAT..!!!
So on the surface.. same chips as 3700,full raster,no pixel shifting trickery.. light,small,lower power consumption .. tech approved for all the high end broadcaster,s .. HDX900 owners can use their viewfinders and camera mic,s.. $25-30,000.. whats not to love? sounds a winner to me..

Jeff Regan · December 21st, 2010, 02:17 PM

Looks like I was right after all, the HPX3100 is finally shipping and the price point is supposedly $19,950!

Jeff Regan
Shooting Star Video

Greg Penetrante · December 29th, 2010, 03:50 PM

I think the PMW-500 has some serious price competition.

Abel just quoted me an HPX3100 package with color VF and Fuji ZA lens (and P2 reader and media) for a whole lot less than I would pay for just a PMW-500 with Lens alone. Wow!

Unless your clients require Sony branded gear, or need variable FR, or you already have lots of SxS investments, I see no compelling reason to spend lots of hard-earned $$$ on the PMW500 at this point.

best,
-Greg

Glen Vandermolen · December 29th, 2010, 08:54 PM

Greg, care to share your quoted price? You can send me a PM if you like.

Robin Probyn · December 30th, 2010, 12:15 AM

Yeah I would be interested too.. if you dont mind

Bo Skelmose · December 30th, 2010, 06:51 PM

I guess that 1080 50P cannot be that far away now 1080 30P is here. Maybe the lack of 720 50P is a hint of 1080 50P on the doorstep.

Glen Vandermolen · December 30th, 2010, 08:49 PM

I got a quote from a dealer and they gave me the price of $19,500. That's the body only.

David Settlemoir · January 4th, 2011, 05:19 PM

I talked to my local dealer today and he said there isn't much room to deal based on what they have to pay for the body.

David

Robin Probyn · January 4th, 2011, 07:37 PM

Anyone have a UK sterling quote yet? UK gear prices always seemed to be much higher than US.. even without the 20% VAT tax !!!

Andy Shipsides · January 4th, 2011, 09:20 PM

The 3100 just started shipping. The first couple went out at the end of the year.

Gaetano Capolino · January 5th, 2011, 05:23 AM

In Italy, Spain, France and Germany, prices are around 28/29000 Euros, body only.
Difference with US prices is simply too much.
I think in short time prices will come down on european market; otherwise, will be more convenient purchase it in US, even with all the custom duties and taxes added.

Gary Nattrass · January 5th, 2011, 03:04 PM

Unless an HPX601 comes out to compete I will be going back to sony and a 350 with nanoflash/AJA Ki pro mini as that is certified for BBC use.

There just isn't the work around to justify investment in high end camera's anymore!

August 30th, 2010, 07:00 AM	#46
Rajiv Attingal Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kerala, India Posts: 95	More Details No 720/50/ 60 option in this camera http://pro-av.panasonic.net/en/sales...PX3100_pre.pdf Looks like a low cost 3ccd Full HD camera. It is referred as "2/3 Type 3CCd ". Not sure what they mean by " type". May be pixel shifting or something like. A 2/3 Type 3CCD in a HPX 370 Body. I expect a price target of less than 20K. Rajiv

December 29th, 2010, 03:50 PM	#51
Greg Penetrante Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 70	I think the PMW-500 has some serious price competition. Abel just quoted me an HPX3100 package with color VF and Fuji ZA lens (and P2 reader and media) for a whole lot less than I would pay for just a PMW-500 with Lens alone. Wow! Unless your clients require Sony branded gear, or need variable FR, or you already have lots of SxS investments, I see no compelling reason to spend lots of hard-earned $$$ on the PMW500 at this point. best, -Greg Last edited by Greg Penetrante; December 29th, 2010 at 03:54 PM. Reason: clarified last sentence.

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Gary Nattrass Trustee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cornsay Durham UK Posts: 1,992	Unless an HPX601 comes out to compete I will be going back to sony and a 350 with nanoflash/AJA Ki pro mini as that is certified for BBC use. There just isn't the work around to justify investment in high end camera's anymore! __________________ Over 15 minutes in Broadcast Film and TV production: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1044352/

August 30th, 2010, 09:04 AM	#48
Steve Phillipps Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 2,130	I'm assuming it'll the exact same chip and processing as the HPX3000. Seems like they've put it in a smaller body and made some mechanical tweaks to keep power consumption down, and to give an excuse for putting it at a lower price - the 2700, 3700 and 3000 all seemed way over-priced, it's been commented on a lot, and was evidenced by them suddenly halving the price with their trade-in offer. Steve

December 21st, 2010, 02:17 PM	#50
Jeff Regan Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Foster City, California Posts: 192	Looks like I was right after all, the HPX3100 is finally shipping and the price point is supposedly $19,950! Jeff Regan Shooting Star Video

December 29th, 2010, 08:54 PM	#52
Glen Vandermolen Space Hipster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,596	Greg, care to share your quoted price? You can send me a PM if you like.

December 30th, 2010, 12:15 AM	#53
Robin Probyn Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tokyo Posts: 590	Yeah I would be interested too.. if you dont mind

December 30th, 2010, 06:51 PM	#54
Bo Skelmose Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 495	I guess that 1080 50P cannot be that far away now 1080 30P is here. Maybe the lack of 720 50P is a hint of 1080 50P on the doorstep.

December 30th, 2010, 08:49 PM	#55
Glen Vandermolen Space Hipster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,596	I got a quote from a dealer and they gave me the price of $19,500. That's the body only.

January 4th, 2011, 05:19 PM	#56
David Settlemoir New Boot Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 8	I talked to my local dealer today and he said there isn't much room to deal based on what they have to pay for the body. David

January 4th, 2011, 07:37 PM	#57
Robin Probyn Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tokyo Posts: 590	Anyone have a UK sterling quote yet? UK gear prices always seemed to be much higher than US.. even without the 20% VAT tax !!!

January 5th, 2011, 05:23 AM	#59
Gaetano Capolino New Boot Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Marsala, Italy Posts: 9	In Italy, Spain, France and Germany, prices are around 28/29000 Euros, body only. Difference with US prices is simply too much. I think in short time prices will come down on european market; otherwise, will be more convenient purchase it in US, even with all the custom duties and taxes added.