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Old April 30th, 2006, 05:38 PM   #1
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Backingup data

Hey what have you guys been tossing around as means to store data? Short of backing up to HD Cam what have you guys thought of? Taking hard drives and storing them with all the video files on them?
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Old April 30th, 2006, 08:30 PM   #2
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I use hard drives. Panasonic also suggests using data tape back up systems in a white paper called P2-Workflow (which is different from the HVX200_FCP_WkFw.pdf). I will send it to you if you want.
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Old April 30th, 2006, 09:43 PM   #3
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I back up all P2 cards to DVD-R and harddrives.
In Photoshop I make a contact sheet from the ICON .bmp files and print that on the DVD-R as a handy reminder of what is in that backup.
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Old April 30th, 2006, 10:08 PM   #4
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I use hard drives. Panasonic also suggests using data tape back up systems in a white paper called P2-Workflow (which is different from the HVX200_FCP_WkFw.pdf). I will send it to you if you want.
Thanks Kathy that would be great.
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Old April 30th, 2006, 11:26 PM   #5
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HDD's the best bet

Fred,

This question has been addressed as a side note in several different posts but the short answer is, HDD's are the most cost effective and stable method for archiving HVX footage.
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Old May 1st, 2006, 12:53 PM   #6
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Since everyone is using different wording I'm going to post all the links for the threads I can find regarding archiving, back up, backing up and other storage of P2 media.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...ight=Back+data

Well I guess it's only one. In that one someone refers to another thread found via HVX200 + storage, but I can't find it.
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Old May 1st, 2006, 01:51 PM   #7
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I 'was' shoving hard drives into my computer, but now my computer tells me that 10 devices are enough, two optical, 6 internal drives and 2 external drives.

So now I'll have to swap out or something. I really just wait for a good bargain on (external link) and then shove a drive in. I'm a collector and don't like to dump footage, even if I can recapture, but I'm sure I'll have to change.

I know that Lacie is coming out with some 500 gig plus externals that look pretty nice.
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Old May 1st, 2006, 02:12 PM   #8
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I've used CDs, and then DVDs, and now ditching DVDs in favor of hard drives. I finally have an SATA PCIe card on my QuadCore Mac for external storage with hot swappable drive bays. I am now building a collection of hard drives instead of way too many DVDs. I keep the hot swap drives in a dust free cabinet. With the new Seagate perp drives coming in at 750GB, I believe 500GB drives will be coming down in price soon. So I'll scale in storage by getting 500GB drives soon. 12 X 500GB = 6TB. :) If I could afford it, 12 X 750GB drives = 9TB.

And.. Blu-Ray on the way! Hopefully end of this year, so that can become an archival medium. I'll still be using hard drives in a huge way though.
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Old May 1st, 2006, 04:18 PM   #9
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buy.com has a 500 gb external usb hdd for $250 right now... outpost.com has a no-rebate, 500 gb seagate internal drive for $220.

if you like bargains, watch the hot deals forum on fatwallet.com... i've been getting seagate hdd's for about the same price per gig as a dlt tape... but you save a grand by not having to buy the tape drive.
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Old May 1st, 2006, 04:25 PM   #10
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HDDs are not stable IMHO unless they are mirrored or in a RAID5... ask anyone at a big audio or video production house how stable even the BEST HDDs are... you will find ALL of them back up to tape or have Raid5s that get backed up every so often...



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Old May 1st, 2006, 04:27 PM   #11
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What's the cost of backing up to tape drives?
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Old May 1st, 2006, 05:03 PM   #12
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What's the cost of backing up to tape drives?

And my question is, would use of tape drive mean that to get access to the footage again, would you end up capturing on a 1 to 1 time frame like you would from a DV tape, or would that be more like copying a file from a hard drive. I haven't had any experience with tape drives.
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Old May 1st, 2006, 05:14 PM   #13
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And my question is, would use of tape drive mean that to get access to the footage again, would you end up capturing on a 1 to 1 time frame like you would from a DV tape, or would that be more like copying a file from a hard drive. I haven't had any experience with tape drives.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 02:01 AM   #14
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Tape drives - no thanks. Talk about expensive and slow. I'll deploy redundant hard drives over tape drives until Blu-Ray hits. And as I've stated before, regarding longevity and data integrity, if you're worried about your media lasting for decades, most likely the format will grow obsolete before the media fails. But then again, car accidents happen. Live life while ya can, which includes using technology that's easy to use. :)
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 11:39 AM   #15
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BR appears to be the best solution going forward, tape drives are indeed over-priced and PAINFULLY slow.



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