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Old January 11th, 2003, 05:56 AM   #1
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B & W Music Video w/Daryl Hannah

This is one of the best B & W music videos I've seen on the web. Beautifully photographed and edited. http://www.emichrysalis.co.uk/mailer...scapology.html

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Old January 11th, 2003, 06:54 AM   #2
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Wow! How did you come across this little gem?
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Old January 11th, 2003, 07:12 AM   #3
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It's a QuickTime movie, so I received an announcement from Apple.

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Old January 15th, 2003, 12:45 AM   #4
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This is a gorgeous video. I'm not sure that I would get the storyline solely from watching it but who the heck cares. One heckuva lot of shots in that little piece. I wonder how long it took to shoot, what they used, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Seeing Daryl Hannah at middle-age makes me feel very old.
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Old January 15th, 2003, 01:27 AM   #5
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I get a "Failed to load" error.
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Old January 15th, 2003, 05:20 AM   #6
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Works fine here!
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Old January 15th, 2003, 07:52 AM   #7
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Yeah, got it working. This wasn't shot on DV, though. And, as it says, the B&W was achieved in post. (Poor cinematographer, having all his hard work deconstructed.)
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Old January 15th, 2003, 08:04 AM   #8
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Robert,

Yes, it was shot in color. I don't know if it is a poort DP. Why? If
they did it correctly the DP was there when they converted it
to black & white. Since you have a little bit more control over that
process in Post now-a-days I think it makes sense to do it in
post, especially if you have your DP/cinematographer sit in! I'm
also assuming here that he or she shot the pictures with the
B&W process in mind.

Just my two euros
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Old January 15th, 2003, 10:01 AM   #9
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The cinematography may be fine but I thought the editing and video in general was very mediocre. Maybe it has something to do with watching Robbie Williams pretend he's rancher. I'm not a fan of his music anyway.

However, what did impress me was the QT interface that gets loaded. Diffinately one of the best ones I've see.

Lucky sod, he gets to snog Daryl Hannah.

[Edit: just seen the colour clips. I think it looks better this way.]
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Old January 15th, 2003, 02:09 PM   #10
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"If they did it correctly the DP was there when they converted it to black & white. Since you have a little bit more control over that process in Post now-a-days I think it makes sense to do it in post, especially if you have your DP/cinematographer sit in!"

Well, I'm not a cinematographer, but as I understand it, when you're shooting B&W you want to light for B&W, and it's a whole new ballgame. This was the basis for the outrage over Turner's colorization of many classic B&W films--they weren't photographed for color.

Performing digital timing (color correction) in post is an efficient use of resources, but completely desaturating the film can be dangerous if the cinematographer doesn't have this in mind from the beginning.

I'm not saying the digital post artists didn't do a good job on the processing. The color version looks great; the B&W version also looks great. But I would hate to be the shut-out cinematographer who does great color work only to see my work undone when I see the video on VH1.
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Old January 15th, 2003, 05:40 PM   #11
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Very true ofcourse Robert!! I'm all ball for including everyone and
don't "destroying" anyone's precious work!
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