60Mbp/s vs. 100Mbps - Supprising Video Samples

Zenes Petrusin · June 12th, 2015, 11:11 AM

Now panning 2160 in 30p shutter 1/50

https://ssl.unlp.sk/x70/Clip0100.MXF
https://ssl.unlp.sk/x70/Clip0098.MXF

btw. new vegas out

Notable fixes/changes version 13.0 (Build 453)
-Fixed a bug that could cause the application to crash when using the Median or Min and Max video effects with an NVIDIA GPU.
-Fixed an issue that prevented Vegas Pro 13 from importing XAVC-L files recorded by the PXW-X70 camera.
-Fixed a bug that prevented XAVC long-GOP files rendered by Vegas Pro from playing on the PXW-X180 camera.
-Fixed an issue that caused the Wave Hammer Surround plug-in to run in Demo mode. The plug-in is now enabled in Vegas Pro.
-Improved playback performance for some MP4 video clips recorded by GoPro Hero cameras.

Piotr Wozniacki · June 12th, 2015, 01:49 PM

Much better panning in 30p, but only with VLC. Vegas still slow and jerky.

Zenes Petrusin · June 12th, 2015, 01:59 PM

I think in Vegas again is problem with accelerating this 4k xavc. Try Sony Catalyst Browse if problem too.

Eric Deyerler · June 17th, 2015, 03:45 AM

@ Zenes: Could you upload the complete folder from the SDXC-card to test the function with Final Cut Pro X, but only the mxf isn`t recognized by FCP X, who needs the complete card-folder, so the testfiles only readable by Catalyst Browse. Thank you.

Zenes Petrusin · June 17th, 2015, 09:43 AM

Four more 4k clips from X70 in directory structure

https://ssl.unlp.sk/x70/PRIVATE.ZIP (640MB)

Eric Deyerler · June 17th, 2015, 12:29 PM

Beautiful - were is the lake in Czech?

Zenes Petrusin · June 17th, 2015, 12:50 PM

this is in Slovakia, High Tatras, Strbske pleso

Eric Deyerler · June 17th, 2015, 02:38 PM

I thought at first time tatra, because I read you are in Czech. It is a nice place there!

Nate Haustein · June 17th, 2015, 04:43 PM

60Mbps vs 100Mbps on the AX100.

It's subtle, and it surprised me, but it's there. The 100mbps shows less aftifacting, macroblocking and smearing, in the darks especially. I pushed these images pretty far with by brightening up the mids considerably and adding a pretty intense LUT. Please note that I didn't try to make the images look good, but instead tried to show the differences in the bitrate by grading it intensely. See what I mean by looking at the brown box in shadow underneath the case on the shelf.

FWIW screen grabs attached. (can't attach the 100mbps wide for some reason, but you can see the differences in the CU)

Andy Smith · June 19th, 2015, 03:14 PM

So, I'm still not sure that the teeny weeny difference in quality is worth the doubling in file size going to 100mbps?

Paul Hardy · June 20th, 2015, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Smith

So, I'm still not sure that the teeny weeny difference in quality is worth the doubling in file size going to 100mbps?

I completely agree - unless of course your intention is to zoom in on your video by 500% :-)

Lou Bruno · June 20th, 2015, 06:04 AM

Less artifacting when panning........I see it in the 100 Mps

Fabian Charlton · December 6th, 2021, 10:09 PM

Anyone have access to these files? I need to download them

*Edit* no longer needed

June 12th, 2015, 11:11 AM	#31
Zenes Petrusin Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 52	Re: 60Mbp/s vs. 100Mbps - Supprising Video Samples Now panning 2160 in 30p shutter 1/50 SONY PXW-X70 4K 30p 1/50 #1 - YouTube SONY PXW-X70 4K 30p 1/50 #2 - YouTube https://ssl.unlp.sk/x70/Clip0100.MXF https://ssl.unlp.sk/x70/Clip0098.MXF btw. new vegas out Notable fixes/changes version 13.0 (Build 453) -Fixed a bug that could cause the application to crash when using the Median or Min and Max video effects with an NVIDIA GPU. -Fixed an issue that prevented Vegas Pro 13 from importing XAVC-L files recorded by the PXW-X70 camera. -Fixed a bug that prevented XAVC long-GOP files rendered by Vegas Pro from playing on the PXW-X180 camera. -Fixed an issue that caused the Wave Hammer Surround plug-in to run in Demo mode. The plug-in is now enabled in Vegas Pro. -Improved playback performance for some MP4 video clips recorded by GoPro Hero cameras. Last edited by Zenes Petrusin; June 12th, 2015 at 12:05 PM.

June 12th, 2015, 01:49 PM	#32
Piotr Wozniacki Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 4,086	Re: 60Mbp/s vs. 100Mbps - Supprising Video Samples Much better panning in 30p, but only with VLC. Vegas still slow and jerky. __________________ Sony PXW-FS7 \| DaVinci Resolve Studio; Magix Vegas Pro; i7-5960X CPU; 64 GB RAM; 2x GTX 1080 8GB GPU; Decklink 4K Extreme 12G; 4x 3TB WD Black in RAID 0; 1TB M.2 NVMe cache drive

June 12th, 2015, 01:59 PM	#33
Zenes Petrusin Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 52	Re: 60Mbp/s vs. 100Mbps - Supprising Video Samples I think in Vegas again is problem with accelerating this 4k xavc. Try Sony Catalyst Browse if problem too.

June 17th, 2015, 03:45 AM	#34
Eric Deyerler Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Schwabach (Germany - Bavaria) Posts: 199	Re: 60Mbp/s vs. 100Mbps - Supprising Video Samples @ Zenes: Could you upload the complete folder from the SDXC-card to test the function with Final Cut Pro X, but only the mxf isn`t recognized by FCP X, who needs the complete card-folder, so the testfiles only readable by Catalyst Browse. Thank you.

June 17th, 2015, 09:43 AM	#35
Zenes Petrusin Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 52	Re: 60Mbp/s vs. 100Mbps - Supprising Video Samples Four more 4k clips from X70 in directory structure https://ssl.unlp.sk/x70/PRIVATE.ZIP (640MB)

June 17th, 2015, 12:29 PM	#36
Eric Deyerler Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Schwabach (Germany - Bavaria) Posts: 199	Re: 60Mbp/s vs. 100Mbps - Supprising Video Samples Beautiful - were is the lake in Czech?

June 17th, 2015, 12:50 PM	#37
Zenes Petrusin Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 52	Re: 60Mbp/s vs. 100Mbps - Supprising Video Samples this is in Slovakia, High Tatras, Strbske pleso

June 17th, 2015, 02:38 PM	#38
Eric Deyerler Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Schwabach (Germany - Bavaria) Posts: 199	Re: 60Mbp/s vs. 100Mbps - Supprising Video Samples I thought at first time tatra, because I read you are in Czech. It is a nice place there!

June 17th, 2015, 04:43 PM	#39
Nate Haustein Trustee Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,313	Re: 60Mbp/s vs. 100Mbps - Supprising Video Samples 60Mbps vs 100Mbps on the AX100. It's subtle, and it surprised me, but it's there. The 100mbps shows less aftifacting, macroblocking and smearing, in the darks especially. I pushed these images pretty far with by brightening up the mids considerably and adding a pretty intense LUT. Please note that I didn't try to make the images look good, but instead tried to show the differences in the bitrate by grading it intensely. See what I mean by looking at the brown box in shadow underneath the case on the shelf. FWIW screen grabs attached. (can't attach the 100mbps wide for some reason, but you can see the differences in the CU) Attached Thumbnails __________________ Nate Haustein PXW-FX9 / FCPX www.flightcreativemedia.com

June 19th, 2015, 03:14 PM	#40
Andy Smith Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Newbury UK Posts: 46	Re: 60Mbp/s vs. 100Mbps - Supprising Video Samples So, I'm still not sure that the teeny weeny difference in quality is worth the doubling in file size going to 100mbps?

June 20th, 2015, 06:04 AM	#42
Lou Bruno Go Cycle Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 815	Re: 60Mbp/s vs. 100Mbps - Supprising Video Samples Less artifacting when panning........I see it in the 100 Mps __________________ Lou Bruno

December 6th, 2021, 10:09 PM	#43
Fabian Charlton New Boot Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Bronx NY Posts: 16	Re: 60Mbp/s vs. 100Mbps - Supprising Video Samples Anyone have access to these files? I need to download them Edit no longer needed Last edited by Fabian Charlton; December 7th, 2021 at 08:27 PM.