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Old October 17th, 2006, 02:32 AM   #1
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No rez difference between 24p & 60i

I captured a clip where I switched from 60i 360-degree shutter and 240 216-degree. So I had two side by side frames.

Used Liquid's super HQ 2D editor to blow-up these two frames by 400%.

No difference I can see!

If someone posts how to post them -- I'll do so. But I won't say which is which.
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Old October 17th, 2006, 03:27 AM   #2
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What about 30p though?

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Old October 17th, 2006, 03:28 AM   #3
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Hey Steve,

If you send the pix to me, I'll host them on my FTP space.

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Oh, and thanks for that Sony HDV eBook. It helped me with deciding that the Sony Z1U was the right choice for me.
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Old October 17th, 2006, 01:17 PM   #4
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Sorry, didn't see this until just now.

Steve -- when you submit a post, look below the message input block and the submit reply button and you'll see an "Additional Options" box. There should be a "Manage Attachments" button. Click that and it'll open a file / image uploading tool. When your images are posted (standard photo formats such as jpg, png etc., they'll appear as 320x240 size thumbnails which can be clicked to show the full-size versions.

Or you can go to our Image Gallery at http://www.dvinfo.net/gallery and post them there -- your choice.
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Old October 17th, 2006, 08:53 PM   #5
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Hi Chris,

Thank you -- I never scrolled down to find the obvious.

Here are four pix. We'll see if folks can tell which is which.

Obviously, these have all been JPEG compressed to meet site requirements so any attempt to judge original image quality is ruled-out. The point is simple -- can you see a rez difference.

Great to talk with you at the Atlanta seminar.
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No rez difference between 24p & 60i-60i-360-vs-24p-216-0.jpg   No rez difference between 24p & 60i-60i-360-vs-24p-216-1.jpg  

No rez difference between 24p & 60i-60i-360-vs-24p-216-400-percent-0.jpg   No rez difference between 24p & 60i-60i-360-vs-24p-216-400-percent-1.jpg  

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Old October 17th, 2006, 10:10 PM   #6
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I can't see one... I'm viewing on a laptop, but even so, no visible difference to me...
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Old October 17th, 2006, 10:59 PM   #7
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Steve, are you sure that the uploader won't allow full 1920x1080 size images? I thought I had properly configured the file attachment conditionals but maybe I got them wrong... what happens when you try to attach full size shots? I'll go back and set a larger file size as well.

Likewise, it was very good to see you in Atlanta and I hope we can catch up with each other again soon.
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Old October 17th, 2006, 11:19 PM   #8
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..I would guess the photo on the right has a ever so slight higher rez, & this a subjective viewpoint , on a 17" 1280x1024 LCD monitor....
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Old October 17th, 2006, 11:34 PM   #9
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Steve, are you sure that the uploader won't allow full 1920x1080 size images? I thought I had properly configured the file attachment conditionals but maybe I got them wrong... what happens when you try to attach full size shots? I'll go back and set a larger file size as well.

Likewise, it was very good to see you in Atlanta and I hope we can catch up with each other again soon.

HI -- my photos should be 1440x1076 which is what came from Liquid. Are they smaller?

I could not upload TIFF.
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Old October 17th, 2006, 11:38 PM   #10
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#1 is interlaced
#2 is progressive

Did I get that right?
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Old October 18th, 2006, 12:42 AM   #11
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60i 360 vs 24p 216 400-percent 1.jpg looks like 60i?
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Old October 18th, 2006, 12:56 AM   #12
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Which camcorder it actually is? 24p is Cineframe?
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Old October 18th, 2006, 02:26 AM   #13
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They are talking about the V1. That's the title of this forum. So no cineframe, but 24p done by the camera.
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Old October 18th, 2006, 05:33 AM   #14
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#1 is interlaced
#2 is progressive

Did I get that right?
Are you countng left to right?
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Old October 18th, 2006, 05:49 AM   #15
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Sorry guys, I do follow when you speak about "left" or "right" - let's use the actual filenames, please...Or the numebrs 1,2,3,4 as per the order they're listed in Steve's post.
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