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Wolfgang Winne November 29th, 2006 07:23 AM

Comparison of FX7 / FX1
 
38 picture from native FX1/7 HDV stream (capture with VCL Mediaplayer) in my german blog:
http://www.fxsupport.de/12.html

Neal Wagner November 29th, 2006 01:14 PM

Excellent, systematic scene by scene comparison, Wolfgang -- very helpful. To my eyes, the FX7 is sharper and displays greater dynamic range.
Vielen Dank

Stu Holmes November 29th, 2006 05:36 PM

I totally agree !

this is a super-useful adn very well-done comparison. It is easy tog et a good feel for how the two cams compare and i have to say the FX7 appears a better image in almost all of those comparison photos.

I think the night shots are particularly stunning in how the FX7 has much less artefacts and texturing. Wolfgang you are performing a very valuable service - thanks again.

Tom Roper November 29th, 2006 06:54 PM

These captures have been upscaled to 1934 x 1088, which is a logical thing to make them display with the correct aspect ratio. For comparative analysis between the two cams it makes no difference, but neither looks as good as if the picture was instead downsampled to 1440 x 810.

Beautiful Europe!

Dave Lammey November 29th, 2006 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu Holmes
I totally agree !

this is a super-useful adn very well-done comparison. It is easy tog et a good feel for how the two cams compare and i have to say the FX7 appears a better image in almost all of those comparison photos.

I think the night shots are particularly stunning in how the FX7 has much less artefacts and texturing. Wolfgang you are performing a very valuable service - thanks again.

The FX1 pictures look slightly brighter, though, do you agree? The FX7 has better and richer colors, better detail, and less grain, but the FX1 appears brighter ... though not knowing what settings were used so not sure if these means the FX1 will always have a brighter picture.

Wolfgang Winne November 29th, 2006 09:14 PM

In the next days i uploading native hdv streams from fx1 and fx7.

Tony Tremble November 30th, 2006 02:57 AM

May I add my thanks. A really good comparison article.

These images shown what Steve Mullen has been sayig about Sony having moved away from the "cool" look. The FX7 images are "warmer" while retaining a natural look and not going overly warm.

Looking forward to the video clips.

Wolfgang, do you have any clips showing a more shallow depth of field i.e. on a long zoom. Personally I'd like to see how the Sony bokeh compares to Canon's.

Still a flip of the coin between the V1 and the XH-A1 for me. Blighmy it's going to be a tough call.

Wolfgang Winne November 30th, 2006 03:10 AM

<Wolfgang, do you have any clips showing a more shallow depth of field i.e. on a long zoom. >


http://www.fxsupport.de/pic/06/11/29/teleAfx7.jpg this is FX7 full 20 Zoom.

Tony Tremble November 30th, 2006 03:46 AM

Hi Wolfgang

Believe me, I saw ALL your images you posted. But I wondered if you had something that showed an object/person in the foreground and close to the camera with the background well out of focus. You'd need to be on a bit of zoom with the aperture as wide open as possible to accomplish this probably.

The Canons are showing some beautiful bokeh and I'd just like to see what the Sony can do. I am sure other people would be interested too.

cheers

TT

Wolfgang Winne November 30th, 2006 05:40 AM

o.k. a making new FX7 pictures with full zoom and F1.6

this pictures can i uploading only in the weekend..... in this time the datatransfer FX1/7 native hdv stream (1,7 Gbyte) is uploading..... with 8,5 KB/s :-(

Tony Tremble November 30th, 2006 06:35 AM

All power to you Wolfgang.

That's dedication!!! :)

Wolfgang Winne December 1st, 2006 06:29 AM

The power was good to me ;-) ...... the native m2t file from FX1+FX7 is just ready uploaded: http://www.fxsupport.de/12.html

Babelfish english version: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...t.de%2f12.html

The DOF test is in the next day....

Ing Poh Hii December 1st, 2006 07:30 AM

Thank you so much Wolfgang :D :D :D
 
I am downloading now, I wish all camcorder manufacturers could just do what you did for us.

Thanks again~

Tony Tremble December 1st, 2006 08:17 AM

Many thanks Wolfgang.

Wolfgang Winne December 1st, 2006 12:06 PM

The bug in download sample Fx7_07.mpg is correct.


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