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Old October 20th, 2004, 04:37 PM   #1
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HDV Info Update on the FX1 and Z1

http://www.hdvinfo.net/articles/sonyhdrfx1/compare.php

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Old November 15th, 2004, 01:17 AM   #2
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Just made a HUGE update to this chart -- see direct link in Heath's post above.
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Old November 15th, 2004, 10:21 AM   #3
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I love a huge update!

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Old November 15th, 2004, 05:54 PM   #4
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One thing. I thought I read somewhere that although the cameras have a manual zoom handle, the zoom is still servo operated and can suffer from quite a bit of lag if it is moved quickly. Anything to this?
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Old November 15th, 2004, 11:03 PM   #5
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The updated chart said something about the zoom not being as smooth or something on the FX1 vs. Z1U.

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Old November 16th, 2004, 04:16 AM   #6
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Interesting. I wish I could recall the account I read. It said that he could move the zoom lever fast one way and back the other, but that the actual zoom on the camera didn't match the speed at which he was moving it.
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Old November 16th, 2004, 08:52 AM   #7
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That's very interesting, Simon.

Heath, regarding the chart, the Z1U has a special "smooth zoom" feature that will ramp the speed of the zoom at the beginning and end to make for a smooth shot. This works right at the zoom rocker. The FX1 actually does have a smooth zoom feature as well, but only as part of the "shot transition" function where you preset your zoom and activate a trigger (a button) which then performs it for you automatically.
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Old November 16th, 2004, 03:00 PM   #8
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Thanks for setting me straight! <g>

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Old November 16th, 2004, 05:23 PM   #9
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<<<-- Originally posted by Simon Wyndham : One thing. I thought I read somewhere that although the cameras have a manual zoom handle, the zoom is still servo operated and can suffer from quite a bit of lag if it is moved quickly. Anything to this? -->>>

It is not a mechanical connection, it is servo operated, like you describe. However, you have to move it pretty quickly to get lag.

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Old November 17th, 2004, 08:51 AM   #10
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I guess that means it's not well-suited for snap zooms, but let's face it, how often do you do those anyway. With me it's always how slow can I zoom, not how fast.
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As a filmmaker, no zooms for me! Esp. a Zapruter Zoom!

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Depends what you are doing. Crash zooms can be used to cool effect in a retro kind of way, as can 'zoom pulsing' should you be shooting something such as a music video etc. It's nice to have the option there, and to be honest I'm not sure why a mechanical zoom would be so hard for them to implement as well as a servo one. Even my old Hi-8 camera had a true mechanical zoom with the ability to select servo operation if needed! Same goes for focus operation.

With the Z1 I don't know how it can be called the pro version with a servo operated focus ring with no barrel markings. Such things are fundemental basics, not luxuries, and something which some of the older analogue consumer cameras actually had!

...yep, just went and had a look at my old Sony V800E Hi8 camera and it has fully manual zoom capability with macro, as well as a full manual focus operation with barrel markings. Now if an ancient Hi8 cam like that can do it, why can't a new camera aimed at prosumers? Especially the Z1 with a 'pro' designation?
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Heath, if zoom ability was such a no-no, and servo zooms were so much easier to implement, why do pro lenses insist on having manual zooms?

It's creative choice. You can't have a camera designated as 'pro' while at the same time taking away features that real pro's look upon as the bare essentials.
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Umm Heath! I just watched the trailer for your Skye Falling and the first shots use.... zoom!!!
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Ze trailer, yes! I use zooms to get my focus, but after Skye and a couple of short films, I've decided to lay off zooms in the actual movie, unless it's totally neccessary. Too ugly for me, personally! I've learned!

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