First Edit

Dave Vickers · May 14th, 2013, 07:46 AM

Here's a basic 'first edit' of part of my latest contract. This one was shot completely on the EA 50, I used the stock lens, the Sony 50mm f1.8 and a Samyang Fish Eye. It was a pleasure to use and nice n simple giving me time to direct actors and sort stuff out. The sunrise at the beginning is stock footage and so is one of the golf shots.

James Hollingsworth · May 14th, 2013, 07:56 AM

Dave,

That is the best example of what the EA50 can do that I have seen, showing that it is very capable of handling very bright highlights and dimly lit indoor situations. It just might stop me selling mine. I have been really struggling with what is the best picture profile setting to use as have (according to this forum)many others. What profile setting did you use here? Also, I assume you had an ND filter attached for the bright outdoor shots - which one do you use? Finally what frame rate did you shoot at?

Congratulations on this footage - if you can get footage that good from a camera of this price, you must be doing something right!

Chris Harding · May 14th, 2013, 08:12 AM

Nice images Dave!

I certainly hope that the final edit will have a voiceover and it dies without that for advertising material

Love to see the final edit with audio narration to see what impact it has. You got the profiles really nicely saturated ..yes, what did you use or did you adjust in post for that??

Good job so far

Chris

Noa Put · May 14th, 2013, 08:19 AM

Me like :)

Great shots in there and nice color, reminds me I need a vacation. I do have to say I saw a few shots that looked soft, they didn't appear to be out of focus, just soft, was that a result of a nd filter you used or the lens?
You also might license the song first as you now hear the audiojungle copy protection jingle throughout the song :)

How do you like the fisheye? That was one lens I was planning to get, it does distort quite a bit in that room shot but it was perfect for that outdoorshot.

Dave Vickers · May 14th, 2013, 08:31 AM

Thanks Guys

Okay James I just got the camera days before we left - so I strayed from any profiles. Therefore I did a bit of post here in FCP and MB Looks. (mostly pulling down the blacks and saturating) The ND is not that spectacular but I like it - its the ZEUS Variable - about 50 euros. I shot at 50p. Chris it's the tune that kills it but this is just a proofing edit, I've made it to spec and it's been really tricky without narration. I had to make 6 of them. I'll be changing the music and adding sound for the dancers, the clapping etc. And Noa - yes I know about the music license but I'll be changing the toon ;). I love that little Samyang Fisheye lens and a great price for f 2.8. It handled the final night club shot well but there is some serious noise in the bamboo thatch roofs, still who's looking at them? Ahh - soft shots seem to be the 50mm in low light? is that what you mean? Also - no one could compliment it more than saying 'reminds me I need a holiday' - hahaha. I'll tell the company that one.

Joel Corral · May 14th, 2013, 09:24 AM

That was fantastic. Makes me wish I had more creative projects other than my boring weekly broadcast. ..

Noa Put · May 14th, 2013, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Vickers

Ahh - soft shots seem to be the 50mm in low light?

It must be the 50mm as those shots have a narrower shallow dof, like the ones between 00:12 and 00:14, 00:18 and 00:22.

Dave Vickers · May 14th, 2013, 10:15 AM

[QUOTE=Noa Put;1795444]
It must be the 50mm as those shots have a narrower shallow dof, like the ones between 00:12 and 00:14, 00:18 and 00:22.

Yeah... Interesting - I had to grab a cheapie ND for the 50mm as it was the only one around here that nearly fitted (malaga). Just shows you innit!

Noa Put · May 14th, 2013, 10:58 AM

I somehow knew a cheap nd filter would be involved :) I have had the same issue with my 550d and a 50mm nikon nikkor paired with a cheap nd filter, every time I used that combination I got very soft images. You are much better of getting a genustech kind of filter, they are more expensive but won't soften up your image.

May 14th, 2013, 07:46 AM	#1
Dave Vickers Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Malaga, Spain Posts: 61	First Edit - Tenerife Here's a basic 'first edit' of part of my latest contract. This one was shot completely on the EA 50, I used the stock lens, the Sony 50mm f1.8 and a Samyang Fish Eye. It was a pleasure to use and nice n simple giving me time to direct actors and sort stuff out. The sunrise at the beginning is stock footage and so is one of the golf shots. Royal Park Albatross - Tenerife - First Edit on Vimeo

May 14th, 2013, 07:56 AM	#2
James Hollingsworth Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Leicester Posts: 119	Re: First Edit - Tenerife Dave, That is the best example of what the EA50 can do that I have seen, showing that it is very capable of handling very bright highlights and dimly lit indoor situations. It just might stop me selling mine. I have been really struggling with what is the best picture profile setting to use as have (according to this forum)many others. What profile setting did you use here? Also, I assume you had an ND filter attached for the bright outdoor shots - which one do you use? Finally what frame rate did you shoot at? Congratulations on this footage - if you can get footage that good from a camera of this price, you must be doing something right!

May 14th, 2013, 08:12 AM	#3
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: First Edit - Tenerife Nice images Dave! I certainly hope that the final edit will have a voiceover and it dies without that for advertising material Love to see the final edit with audio narration to see what impact it has. You got the profiles really nicely saturated ..yes, what did you use or did you adjust in post for that?? Good job so far Chris

May 14th, 2013, 08:19 AM	#4
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,509	Re: First Edit - Tenerife Me like :) Great shots in there and nice color, reminds me I need a vacation. I do have to say I saw a few shots that looked soft, they didn't appear to be out of focus, just soft, was that a result of a nd filter you used or the lens? You also might license the song first as you now hear the audiojungle copy protection jingle throughout the song :) How do you like the fisheye? That was one lens I was planning to get, it does distort quite a bit in that room shot but it was perfect for that outdoorshot.

May 14th, 2013, 08:31 AM	#5
Dave Vickers Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Malaga, Spain Posts: 61	Re: First Edit - Tenerife Thanks Guys Okay James I just got the camera days before we left - so I strayed from any profiles. Therefore I did a bit of post here in FCP and MB Looks. (mostly pulling down the blacks and saturating) The ND is not that spectacular but I like it - its the ZEUS Variable - about 50 euros. I shot at 50p. Chris it's the tune that kills it but this is just a proofing edit, I've made it to spec and it's been really tricky without narration. I had to make 6 of them. I'll be changing the music and adding sound for the dancers, the clapping etc. And Noa - yes I know about the music license but I'll be changing the toon ;). I love that little Samyang Fisheye lens and a great price for f 2.8. It handled the final night club shot well but there is some serious noise in the bamboo thatch roofs, still who's looking at them? Ahh - soft shots seem to be the 50mm in low light? is that what you mean? Also - no one could compliment it more than saying 'reminds me I need a holiday' - hahaha. I'll tell the company that one.

May 14th, 2013, 09:24 AM	#6
Joel Corral Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brea, CA Posts: 356	Re: First Edit - Tenerife That was fantastic. Makes me wish I had more creative projects other than my boring weekly broadcast. ..

May 14th, 2013, 10:15 AM	#8
Dave Vickers Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Malaga, Spain Posts: 61	Re: First Edit - Tenerife [QUOTE=Noa Put;1795444] It must be the 50mm as those shots have a narrower shallow dof, like the ones between 00:12 and 00:14, 00:18 and 00:22. Yeah... Interesting - I had to grab a cheapie ND for the 50mm as it was the only one around here that nearly fitted (malaga). Just shows you innit!

May 14th, 2013, 10:58 AM	#9
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,509	Re: First Edit - Tenerife I somehow knew a cheap nd filter would be involved :) I have had the same issue with my 550d and a 50mm nikon nikkor paired with a cheap nd filter, every time I used that combination I got very soft images. You are much better of getting a genustech kind of filter, they are more expensive but won't soften up your image.