VG-20H in stock at Sony Style

Junior Pascual · October 31st, 2011, 12:50 PM

Interchangeable Lens HD Handycam Camcorder and Lens | SLT-A77VQ | Sony USA

Shipping tomorrow (Nov. 1)

Jeff Hinson · November 1st, 2011, 02:09 AM

I usually order from BH photo NYC..
Is there any disadvantage or advantage ordering direct from SONY?

jeff

Paul Newman · November 1st, 2011, 04:46 AM

Interesting that the AVCHD data rates are listedb as:

Video Mode : AVCHD: 1920 x 1080/ 60p/24p 60i (FX/FH); FX- 24Mbps, FH - 17Mbps; 1440x1080/60i HQ -9 Mbps

No mention of 28Mbps

however on the Sony UK site you have:

HD; PS:Approx.28Mbps/FX:Approx.24Mbps/FH:Approx.17Mbps/HQ:Approx.9Mbps/LP:Approx.5Mbps. SD; STD HQ:9Mbps

BUT also THIS:

24 Mbps recording - Full HD 1920 x 1080 video shooting (AVCHD format) at maximum bit rate for increased detail and clarity

mmm, I wonder what's really real?

and I found a file on the net, a 28Mbps 50p mts file from the VG20, that reports as 25Mbps when opened - sooooo??

Paul

Jeff Hinson · November 1st, 2011, 06:58 AM

Do you think it might be some form of VBR (variable bit rate) to limit file size..as done in audio files?
Just guessing.

Dave Blackhurst · November 1st, 2011, 11:34 AM

Presuming that it's the same as the other Sony cameras, there is the 24Mbps interlaced mode, AND a 28Mbps progressive mode, 50 or 60 depending on region (PAL or NTSC). Not sure that every program will properly "read" the tags for the 50/60P, that may be a part of the problem?

Chris Barcellos · November 1st, 2011, 12:28 PM

I took the plunge and ordered VG-20 from Sony today. I am looking at using as a potential low end rental for a start up business I am contemplating. I am still looking forward to what Canon may present, along with DSLR I have, and an FX1, I am going to test the local rental market for film makers. We seem to have a large interest in this area.

Jeff Hinson · November 2nd, 2011, 01:57 AM

Chris..
Still no stock at BHphoto..I may order direct too. Will give another week to stock.

Please let us know what you think of the VG20 and what you think of the 10x zoom lens.

Good luck on your rental venture.
Jeff

Bill Koehler · November 2nd, 2011, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Hinson

Chris..
Still no stock at BHphoto..I may order direct too. Will give another week to stock.

I checked last night & there was stock (body only) as well as this morning.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/818266-REG/Sony_NEXVG20_NEX_VG20_Interchangeable_Lens_HD.html

Personally, I want to see more reviews and online footage before making a commitment.

Jeff Hinson · November 2nd, 2011, 08:07 AM

Yeah Bill...I want the kit with lens. I have the Nex 5n..so could use the zoom on both.

I "should' wait too...but getting anxious. ha

I have the XHA1 Canon....but the 'combo' of the Nex 5N and VG20 really appeals to me.

Jeff

just checked with BH....they have the ZOOM lens in stock..but not in Kit form. So if you preorder they probably just ship as separate items...which would cost more.
Think I will order kit from Sony.

Chris Barcellos · November 2nd, 2011, 11:16 AM

Interestingly, if you go to Sony Store and search for VG-20 it only gives you page for body. Using link at top of this page, it gave me access to the kit. There was no issue of out of stock when I ordered. I usually go with BH Photo too, but there was interest free financing from Sony available, so I went that route.

Jeff Hinson · November 2nd, 2011, 12:48 PM

I did the preorder thing with B&H..they have been good to me over the years.
Hope we've done the right thing by rushing to order. : ? )
Jeff

Jeff Hinson · November 24th, 2011, 03:38 AM

B&H has stock as of 11-23-11...new corrected spec.

Todd Clark · November 24th, 2011, 09:21 AM

The spec still shows creative color styles.

From the spec:
Creative Color Modes Standard, Vivid, Portrait, Landscape, Sunset, B/W

Jeff Hinson · November 24th, 2011, 10:25 AM

Maybe in "this" run of cams they put it back in.
I will call BH to see and post.
I would order immediately if it's true.

Jeff

I sent this message to BHphoto.

Sony VG 20. Please verify the spec that states under, EXPOSURE CONTROL, the VG20 has the following .....(Creative Color Modes) Standard, Vivid, Portrait, Landscape, Sunset, B/W

Others have ordered direct from Sony and the VG 20 does NOT have this spec.
I will order if it DOES. Jeff

Todd Clark · November 24th, 2011, 01:21 PM

"Maybe in "this" run of cams they put it back in."

I highly doubt it! But if they put the sharpening control back in I would buy one.
I doubt that also!

October 31st, 2011, 12:50 PM	#1
Junior Pascual Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mililani, Hawaii Posts: 89	VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA Interchangeable Lens HD Handycam Camcorder and Lens \| SLT-A77VQ \| Sony USA Shipping tomorrow (Nov. 1) Last edited by Junior Pascual; October 31st, 2011 at 12:52 PM. Reason: added info

November 1st, 2011, 02:09 AM	#2
Jeff Hinson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Down South, IN Posts: 422	Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA I usually order from BH photo NYC.. Is there any disadvantage or advantage ordering direct from SONY? jeff

November 1st, 2011, 04:46 AM	#3
Paul Newman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Agua Blanca Ibiza Posts: 305	Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA Interesting that the AVCHD data rates are listedb as: Video Mode : AVCHD: 1920 x 1080/ 60p/24p 60i (FX/FH); FX- 24Mbps, FH - 17Mbps; 1440x1080/60i HQ -9 Mbps No mention of 28Mbps however on the Sony UK site you have: HD; PS:Approx.28Mbps/FX:Approx.24Mbps/FH:Approx.17Mbps/HQ:Approx.9Mbps/LP:Approx.5Mbps. SD; STD HQ:9Mbps BUT also THIS: 24 Mbps recording - Full HD 1920 x 1080 video shooting (AVCHD format) at maximum bit rate for increased detail and clarity mmm, I wonder what's really real? and I found a file on the net, a 28Mbps 50p mts file from the VG20, that reports as 25Mbps when opened - sooooo?? Paul __________________ Another Sunny Day in Ibiza Last edited by Paul Newman; November 1st, 2011 at 05:20 AM.

November 1st, 2011, 06:58 AM	#4
Jeff Hinson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Down South, IN Posts: 422	Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA Do you think it might be some form of VBR (variable bit rate) to limit file size..as done in audio files? Just guessing.

November 1st, 2011, 11:34 AM	#5
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA Presuming that it's the same as the other Sony cameras, there is the 24Mbps interlaced mode, AND a 28Mbps progressive mode, 50 or 60 depending on region (PAL or NTSC). Not sure that every program will properly "read" the tags for the 50/60P, that may be a part of the problem?

November 1st, 2011, 12:28 PM	#6
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA I took the plunge and ordered VG-20 from Sony today. I am looking at using as a potential low end rental for a start up business I am contemplating. I am still looking forward to what Canon may present, along with DSLR I have, and an FX1, I am going to test the local rental market for film makers. We seem to have a large interest in this area. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

November 2nd, 2011, 01:57 AM	#7
Jeff Hinson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Down South, IN Posts: 422	Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA Chris.. Still no stock at BHphoto..I may order direct too. Will give another week to stock. Please let us know what you think of the VG20 and what you think of the 10x zoom lens. Good luck on your rental venture. Jeff

November 2nd, 2011, 08:07 AM	#9
Jeff Hinson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Down South, IN Posts: 422	Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA Yeah Bill...I want the kit with lens. I have the Nex 5n..so could use the zoom on both. I "should' wait too...but getting anxious. ha I have the XHA1 Canon....but the 'combo' of the Nex 5N and VG20 really appeals to me. Jeff just checked with BH....they have the ZOOM lens in stock..but not in Kit form. So if you preorder they probably just ship as separate items...which would cost more. Think I will order kit from Sony.

November 2nd, 2011, 11:16 AM	#10
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA Interestingly, if you go to Sony Store and search for VG-20 it only gives you page for body. Using link at top of this page, it gave me access to the kit. There was no issue of out of stock when I ordered. I usually go with BH Photo too, but there was interest free financing from Sony available, so I went that route. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

November 2nd, 2011, 12:48 PM	#11
Jeff Hinson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Down South, IN Posts: 422	Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA I did the preorder thing with B&H..they have been good to me over the years. Hope we've done the right thing by rushing to order. : ? ) Jeff Last edited by Jeff Hinson; November 3rd, 2011 at 03:38 AM. Reason: update

November 24th, 2011, 03:38 AM	#12
Jeff Hinson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Down South, IN Posts: 422	Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA B&H has stock as of 11-23-11...new corrected spec.

November 24th, 2011, 09:21 AM	#13
Todd Clark Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Parma, Oh Posts: 172	Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA The spec still shows creative color styles. From the spec: Creative Color Modes Standard, Vivid, Portrait, Landscape, Sunset, B/W

November 24th, 2011, 10:25 AM	#14
Jeff Hinson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Down South, IN Posts: 422	Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA Maybe in "this" run of cams they put it back in. I will call BH to see and post. I would order immediately if it's true. Jeff I sent this message to BHphoto. Sony VG 20. Please verify the spec that states under, EXPOSURE CONTROL, the VG20 has the following .....(Creative Color Modes) Standard, Vivid, Portrait, Landscape, Sunset, B/W Others have ordered direct from Sony and the VG 20 does NOT have this spec. I will order if it DOES. Jeff

November 24th, 2011, 01:21 PM	#15
Todd Clark Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Parma, Oh Posts: 172	Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA "Maybe in "this" run of cams they put it back in." I highly doubt it! But if they put the sharpening control back in I would buy one. I doubt that also!