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Old October 31st, 2011, 01:50 PM   #1
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VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA

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Old November 1st, 2011, 03:09 AM   #2
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I usually order from BH photo NYC..
Is there any disadvantage or advantage ordering direct from SONY?

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Old November 1st, 2011, 05:46 AM   #3
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Interesting that the AVCHD data rates are listedb as:

Video Mode : AVCHD: 1920 x 1080/ 60p/24p 60i (FX/FH); FX- 24Mbps, FH - 17Mbps; 1440x1080/60i HQ -9 Mbps

No mention of 28Mbps

however on the Sony UK site you have:

HD; PS:Approx.28Mbps/FX:Approx.24Mbps/FH:Approx.17Mbps/HQ:Approx.9Mbps/LP:Approx.5Mbps. SD; STD HQ:9Mbps

BUT also THIS:

24 Mbps recording - Full HD 1920 x 1080 video shooting (AVCHD format) at maximum bit rate for increased detail and clarity


mmm, I wonder what's really real?

and I found a file on the net, a 28Mbps 50p mts file from the VG20, that reports as 25Mbps when opened - sooooo??


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Old November 1st, 2011, 07:58 AM   #4
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Do you think it might be some form of VBR (variable bit rate) to limit file size..as done in audio files?
Just guessing.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 12:34 PM   #5
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Presuming that it's the same as the other Sony cameras, there is the 24Mbps interlaced mode, AND a 28Mbps progressive mode, 50 or 60 depending on region (PAL or NTSC). Not sure that every program will properly "read" the tags for the 50/60P, that may be a part of the problem?
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Old November 1st, 2011, 01:28 PM   #6
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I took the plunge and ordered VG-20 from Sony today. I am looking at using as a potential low end rental for a start up business I am contemplating. I am still looking forward to what Canon may present, along with DSLR I have, and an FX1, I am going to test the local rental market for film makers. We seem to have a large interest in this area.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 02:57 AM   #7
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Chris..
Still no stock at BHphoto..I may order direct too. Will give another week to stock.

Please let us know what you think of the VG20 and what you think of the 10x zoom lens.

Good luck on your rental venture.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 08:12 AM   #8
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Chris..
Still no stock at BHphoto..I may order direct too. Will give another week to stock.
I checked last night & there was stock (body only) as well as this morning.

Sony NEX-VG20 Interchangeable Lens HD Handycam NEXVG20 B&H Photo


Personally, I want to see more reviews and online footage before making a commitment.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 09:07 AM   #9
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Yeah Bill...I want the kit with lens. I have the Nex 5n..so could use the zoom on both.

I "should' wait too...but getting anxious. ha

I have the XHA1 Canon....but the 'combo' of the Nex 5N and VG20 really appeals to me.

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just checked with BH....they have the ZOOM lens in stock..but not in Kit form. So if you preorder they probably just ship as separate items...which would cost more.
Think I will order kit from Sony.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 12:16 PM   #10
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Interestingly, if you go to Sony Store and search for VG-20 it only gives you page for body. Using link at top of this page, it gave me access to the kit. There was no issue of out of stock when I ordered. I usually go with BH Photo too, but there was interest free financing from Sony available, so I went that route.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 01:48 PM   #11
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I did the preorder thing with B&H..they have been good to me over the years.
Hope we've done the right thing by rushing to order. : ? )
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Old November 24th, 2011, 03:38 AM   #12
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B&H has stock as of 11-23-11...new corrected spec.
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Old November 24th, 2011, 09:21 AM   #13
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Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA

The spec still shows creative color styles.

From the spec:
Creative Color Modes Standard, Vivid, Portrait, Landscape, Sunset, B/W
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Old November 24th, 2011, 10:25 AM   #14
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Maybe in "this" run of cams they put it back in.
I will call BH to see and post.
I would order immediately if it's true.

Jeff

I sent this message to BHphoto.

Sony VG 20. Please verify the spec that states under, EXPOSURE CONTROL, the VG20 has the following .....(Creative Color Modes) Standard, Vivid, Portrait, Landscape, Sunset, B/W

Others have ordered direct from Sony and the VG 20 does NOT have this spec.
I will order if it DOES. Jeff
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Old November 24th, 2011, 01:21 PM   #15
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Re: VG-20H in stock at Sony Style - USA

"Maybe in "this" run of cams they put it back in."

I highly doubt it! But if they put the sharpening control back in I would buy one.
I doubt that also!
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