VX & PD series battery / batteries

Mike Rehmus · November 10th, 2005, 06:01 PM

I have a three-battery charger (actually 2 of them) that was made by Sony for the DSR-200 cameras that use the 3 large batteries. It will also power the camera if you have the normal charger to camera cable. I"ve used them for all the Sony batteries with no problems.

I could be persuaded to sell one or both if you are interested.

e-mail me if you are interested.

Georg Liigand · November 11th, 2005, 08:36 AM

Thanks for the replies! The one at BH is probably exactly what I've been looking for, but unfortunately I wasn't able to find it from Ebay :( I will have to see if there are any shops selling it in Europe.

Richard Zlamany · December 1st, 2005, 11:50 PM

Hello.

Is this battery charger acceptable to use with the pd170 batteries? I am planning on buying a NP-F970 and this particular battery is not mentioned in the add. Would it still work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/AC-DC-Dual-Charg...QQcmdZViewItem

What makes me worried is the charger is for Sony F828 F717 F707 S85.

I think one of my sony batteries for the pd170 is about to die soon. The battery is fine for the 2hrs or so but when it read 30 minutes it suddenly dies. Is this a sign that the battery is old and should be replaced? The battery is a NP F950 that I bought 9 years ago for my Hi8 but since have been using with the pd170.

Leslie Wand · December 2nd, 2005, 04:16 AM

is this a record?

i reckon most of my batteries die (or rather, become unreliable) after a couple of years or so generally.

leslie

Don Bloom · December 2nd, 2005, 07:19 AM

if I got 9 years from a battery I would not only retire it I would put it in the old batterys home and treat it like royalty.

It soulds like one of the cells is going (gone) put that battery aside and buy a new one.

Don

Richard Zlamany · December 2nd, 2005, 12:40 PM

Sorry for sounding like a record. I will retire the battery and give it props.

Does anyone have any opinions on the charger in the link?

Richard Zlamany · December 6th, 2005, 01:18 AM

Odd, I searched the forums and a definitive answer to the charger question was never given.

Someone did post the charger question but it was never answered. Someone wrote an article about another battery charger but the link to buy that charger doesn't work.

So Leslie, I don't understand the sarcasm because yes the battery life question has been asked before but the charger question was never answered in my search.

Federico Prieto · June 11th, 2006, 09:24 AM

I have a "near new" Sony NP-F970 Info-Lithium Battery that I let about one year without use....Now it can't get charge at all...It looks like totally dead....

Is there a way to recovery it?

Thanks

F

Boyd Ostroff · June 11th, 2006, 12:39 PM

I doubt that it can be saved. I had an NP-F960 which I also didn't use for a long time that did the exact same thing. But a second NPF-960 bought at the same time (2002) and treated similarly is still going strong today. But now I try to make it a point to rotate my batteries and fully discharge/recharge them on a regular basis. No problems since then, but it's probably more about blind luck than anything else :-)

Federico Prieto · June 11th, 2006, 12:43 PM

Hello Boyd:

I was affraid about...hehehehehehe....well, like the Zep blues There's nothing I can do....From now I will be more carefully with the batt....Like ever, thanks a lot for your support.....

warm regards

Federico

David Aguilar · June 11th, 2006, 07:12 PM

Im curios...

Do you guys leave your batteries at full charge or completely empty when you don't have any plans to used them in the near future?

Mike Rehmus · June 11th, 2006, 08:45 PM

Fully charged and I recharge them every 30 days. I have LiOn batteries that are almost 10 years old and still can do a good day's work.

Federico Prieto · June 11th, 2006, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Rehmus

Fully charged and I recharge them every 30 days. I have LiOn batteries that are almost 10 years old and still can do a good day's work.

Well this is the tip of the day....indeed....Thanks a lot Mike

F

Tom Hardwick · June 13th, 2006, 04:41 AM

And there again, Sony's words from the Z1's book is to leave them discharged and only charge them when needed. I never do this though, prefering to know that I can grab kit and leg it at a moment's notice.

Sounds like you have a dead cell Federico, in the battery of cells that make up your 970. I'd be tempted to send it back to Sony - they know even the oldest 970s are only 13 months old so should happily replace it. Tell 'em I said so.

tom.

Marcus Marchesseault · June 13th, 2006, 04:54 AM

I read on a general battery-oriented site that LiIon batteries should not be stored fully charged. I don't remember the physics, but I distinctly remember that they were somewhat like the opposite of lead-acid batteries. Keep lead batteries fully charged and keep lithium partially discharged. There didn't seem to be a problem bringing them to full charge, but they said not to leave them that way. NiCads are neither. They need to be cycled to remove the "memory" effect.

November 10th, 2005, 06:01 PM	#181
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	I have a three-battery charger (actually 2 of them) that was made by Sony for the DSR-200 cameras that use the 3 large batteries. It will also power the camera if you have the normal charger to camera cable. I"ve used them for all the Sony batteries with no problems. I could be persuaded to sell one or both if you are interested. e-mail me if you are interested. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

December 1st, 2005, 11:50 PM	#183
Richard Zlamany Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamden CT Posts: 470	Battery Charger & Battery Question Hello. Is this battery charger acceptable to use with the pd170 batteries? I am planning on buying a NP-F970 and this particular battery is not mentioned in the add. Would it still work? http://cgi.ebay.com/AC-DC-Dual-Charg...QQcmdZViewItem What makes me worried is the charger is for Sony F828 F717 F707 S85. I think one of my sony batteries for the pd170 is about to die soon. The battery is fine for the 2hrs or so but when it read 30 minutes it suddenly dies. Is this a sign that the battery is old and should be replaced? The battery is a NP F950 that I bought 9 years ago for my Hi8 but since have been using with the pd170.

June 11th, 2006, 09:24 AM	#188
Federico Prieto Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Caracas, Venezuela Posts: 117	I have problems with a Sony Battery I have a "near new" Sony NP-F970 Info-Lithium Battery that I let about one year without use....Now it can't get charge at all...It looks like totally dead.... Is there a way to recovery it? Thanks F

June 11th, 2006, 08:45 PM	#192
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	Fully charged and I recharge them every 30 days. I have LiOn batteries that are almost 10 years old and still can do a good day's work. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

November 11th, 2005, 08:36 AM	#182
Georg Liigand Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Estonia Posts: 214	Thanks for the replies! The one at BH is probably exactly what I've been looking for, but unfortunately I wasn't able to find it from Ebay :( I will have to see if there are any shops selling it in Europe.

December 2nd, 2005, 04:16 AM	#184
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	is this a record? i reckon most of my batteries die (or rather, become unreliable) after a couple of years or so generally. leslie

December 2nd, 2005, 07:19 AM	#185
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	if I got 9 years from a battery I would not only retire it I would put it in the old batterys home and treat it like royalty. It soulds like one of the cells is going (gone) put that battery aside and buy a new one. Don

December 2nd, 2005, 12:40 PM	#186
Richard Zlamany Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamden CT Posts: 470	Sorry for sounding like a record. I will retire the battery and give it props. Does anyone have any opinions on the charger in the link?

December 6th, 2005, 01:18 AM	#187
Richard Zlamany Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamden CT Posts: 470	Odd, I searched the forums and a definitive answer to the charger question was never given. Someone did post the charger question but it was never answered. Someone wrote an article about another battery charger but the link to buy that charger doesn't work. So Leslie, I don't understand the sarcasm because yes the battery life question has been asked before but the charger question was never answered in my search.

June 11th, 2006, 12:39 PM	#189
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	I doubt that it can be saved. I had an NP-F960 which I also didn't use for a long time that did the exact same thing. But a second NPF-960 bought at the same time (2002) and treated similarly is still going strong today. But now I try to make it a point to rotate my batteries and fully discharge/recharge them on a regular basis. No problems since then, but it's probably more about blind luck than anything else :-)

June 11th, 2006, 12:43 PM	#190
Federico Prieto Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Caracas, Venezuela Posts: 117	Hello Boyd: I was affraid about...hehehehehehe....well, like the Zep blues There's nothing I can do....From now I will be more carefully with the batt....Like ever, thanks a lot for your support..... warm regards Federico

June 11th, 2006, 07:12 PM	#191
David Aguilar Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Fernando Valley, California Posts: 36	Im curios... Do you guys leave your batteries at full charge or completely empty when you don't have any plans to used them in the near future?

June 13th, 2006, 04:41 AM	#194
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	And there again, Sony's words from the Z1's book is to leave them discharged and only charge them when needed. I never do this though, prefering to know that I can grab kit and leg it at a moment's notice. Sounds like you have a dead cell Federico, in the battery of cells that make up your 970. I'd be tempted to send it back to Sony - they know even the oldest 970s are only 13 months old so should happily replace it. Tell 'em I said so. tom.

June 13th, 2006, 04:54 AM	#195
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	I read on a general battery-oriented site that LiIon batteries should not be stored fully charged. I don't remember the physics, but I distinctly remember that they were somewhat like the opposite of lead-acid batteries. Keep lead batteries fully charged and keep lithium partially discharged. There didn't seem to be a problem bringing them to full charge, but they said not to leave them that way. NiCads are neither. They need to be cycled to remove the "memory" effect.