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Alessandro Zumstein November 7th, 2007 01:28 PM

Best microphone for PMW-EX1?
 
Hello, i can't choosea microphone for my future ex1. I think about the MKH416 from Sennheiser but this masterpiece have not a lowcut filter. Are there separate lowcut filter for this microphone (small size, not a mixer)? Or the PMW-EX1 has one built in?

Alessandro Zumstein

Beatrice Eldon November 8th, 2007 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Alessandro Zumstein (Post 771762)
Hello, i can't choosea microphone for my future ex1. I think about the MKH416 from Sennheiser but this masterpiece have not a lowcut filter. Are there separate lowcut filter for this microphone (small size, not a mixer)? Or the PMW-EX1 has one built in?

Alessandro Zumstein

What about the mic which comes with the Sony PDW-530P ? It's had some very good reviews.

Stelios Christofides November 12th, 2007 07:33 AM

Why don't you wait and test the built-in microphone that comes with the camera?

Stelios

Alessandro Zumstein November 12th, 2007 09:21 AM

Best microphone for the EX1
 
Because the built in microphone of the ex1 is not a directional shotgun microphone but a stereo omnidirectional microphone.

Alessandro Zumstein

Justin Benn November 12th, 2007 09:28 AM

Why not choose according to task not camera?
 
I don't understand how your choice of camera affects what microphone you want to buy. Please explain.

Justin.

Steven Thomas November 12th, 2007 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Alessandro Zumstein (Post 774153)
Because the built in microphone of the ex1 is not a directional shotgun microphone but a stereo omnidirectional microphone.

Alessandro Zumstein

Ominidirectional.
Enough said there. LOL
The last thing I want is a recording of me swearing behind the camera. LOL

Alessandro Zumstein November 12th, 2007 01:04 PM

Find the best solution
 
Hello users, i have no longer problems with chosing the ideal mikrophone.
Mi final chose, go to the Neumann KMR-81, this amazing high-end piece have a low cut fileter built in and a "limiter" switch. The price is a little higher than expected because "it's neumann".

http://www.neumann.com/?lang=en&id=c...id=kmr81i_data

Alessandro Zumstein

Jiri Bakala November 12th, 2007 06:32 PM

I would be looking at a good stereo shotgun. There are a few available, in the $600-1,400 range at B&H. Here are a few examples...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...o_Shotgun.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ICROPHONE.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...o_Shotgun.html

Evan Donn November 12th, 2007 07:33 PM

I'm curious what the advantage would be to a stereo shotgun? It would seem to be at cross-purposes to itself, in that a shotgun is supposed to be focused in a single direction and yet it somehow would also have to provide enough separation between the channels to sound different than a mono mic on two channels. Where would you use something like that?

Michael Rehfield November 12th, 2007 08:39 PM

Sennheiser ME66
 
I've used the Sennheiser ME66 for years, first on my PD150, then the HVX200, and soon, perhaps, on the the EX1. It suits my needs fine, and I can't imagine that the near $1000 price difference for the Sennheiser 416 is worth it for camera-mounted run-and-gun type work.

B&H has a great package deal.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...oid_Short.html

Justin Benn November 12th, 2007 08:43 PM

M + S
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Donn (Post 774461)
I'm curious what the advantage would be to a stereo shotgun? It would seem to be at cross-purposes to itself, in that a shotgun is supposed to be focused in a single direction and yet it somehow would also have to provide enough separation between the channels to sound different than a mono mic on two channels. Where would you use something like that?

Well, I know there are circumstances when an M + S pair would be ideal on a mic - in addition to the directional mic (see Sennheiser's MKH 418 S), eg. for factual programming such as natural history or carefully controlled settings. Otherwise, I would be tempted to go for a directional shotgun mic and record additional tracks separately.

Of course, the choice of a PWM EX1 from Sony has absolutely NO bearing on this choice of mic, over and above the choice of any other camera.

Jiri Bakala November 12th, 2007 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Donn (Post 774461)
I'm curious what the advantage would be to a stereo shotgun? It would seem to be at cross-purposes to itself, in that a shotgun is supposed to be focused in a single direction and yet it somehow would also have to provide enough separation between the channels to sound different than a mono mic on two channels. Where would you use something like that?

Some of these (if not all) have the ability to be switched between stereo and mono. Stereo is important for natural history programming or stock footage and a good quality mike like one of the ones I listed would certainly beat in quality the built-in microphone. If a directionality is required, it's a simple matter of switching that option on. A stereo mike is simply more versatile and if I get the EX1, that would be my choice.

Piotr Wozniacki November 13th, 2007 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Bakala (Post 774502)
Some of these (if not all) have the ability to be switched between stereo and mono. Stereo is important for natural history programming or stock footage and a good quality mike like one of the ones I listed would certainly beat in quality the built-in microphone. If a directionality is required, it's a simple matter of switching that option on. A stereo mike is simply more versatile and if I get the EX1, that would be my choice.

I can confirm the M+S shotguns can be very useful; I have one (Edirol CS-50) to use almost exclusively on my V1E, but this camera hasn't got its own mic, so having both mono and stereo choice makes more sense. For the EX1, I'm buing a mono shotgun - the ECM-673 or above are good enough for general purpose use.

Michael Mann November 13th, 2007 02:53 AM

I can second that, too. I have been using the Sennheiser MKH 418 (M-S-Stereo) for quite a while on my Canon A1. You always have all choices in post. If you should need only pristine mono (e.g. for dialouge), just drop the side channel in post, and you get a Sennheiser 416-quality sound.

Stelios Christofides November 13th, 2007 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alessandro Zumstein (Post 774153)
Because the built in microphone of the ex1 is not a directional shotgun microphone but a stereo omnidirectional microphone.

Alessandro Zumstein

Are you sure Alessandro?

Stelios


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