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Steve Mullen December 2nd, 2007 02:37 AM

EXMOR Technology
 
Each CMOS capture-cycle begins when a pulse is sent to the Reset transistors within a row to prepare the photodiodes to capture light. After resetting all pixels in a row, the amount of light falling on the photodiodes determines how much charge accumulates in each element's Potential Well. Technically, the reset begins an “integration” period.

When a CMOS row is read, each element sends it’s signal down a column-bus where it is input to a Sample & Hold circuit that briefly stores the value. Each column has its own bus. (The read-out clears the Potential Well.)

Next, a second cycle is performed on the same row. Immediately, all row elements are sent down their column-bus to a second set of Sample & Hold circuits. The second set of values measure each element’s inherent noise. The first set of values measure element signal+noise values.

Now the noise values are subtracted from stored signal+noise values to yield a row of signal values. This system is called Correlated Double Sampling (CDS).

These analog signal values are shifted to A/D converter(s). The more A/D converters, the faster each row can be read-out. The faster each row is read, the faster ALL rows are read-out. The faster All rows are read-out, the less rolling shutter effect.

The A/Ds can be built-into a CMOS chip or they can be in an external chip. In this case, the analog signal(s) must pass from one chip to another adding noise.

The output from a V1's 3ClearVid chip is an analog signal that is converted to a digital by a 14-bit A-to-D converter in its Digital eXtended Processor (DXP) chip. According to Sony Japan, four elements—from four columns—are read simultaneously from each ClearVid chip through the DXP into each of the EIP’s three 2-million cell buffers. Thus, there are four EXTERNAL A/Ds for each CMOS chip. 960 elements are processed in 120 slices of four samples each. Faster than conventional CMOS, but not as fast as would like.

According to Sony Japan, ""Exmor" is a trademark of Sony Corporation. This "Exmor" is the column parallel AD converter with by the high-speed processing, low noise performance, low power consumption of CMOS sensor excellent." To me this sounds like there is an on-board A/D for each column.

If this is true, in the time that one A/D conversion could occur -- 1920 elements in a row are converted from analog to digital. Now, pure digital values can be output.

Assuming 10-, 12-, or 14-bit converters, there would need to be 10-, 12-, or 14-pins that output 1920 values as they are shifted from the A/D converters. Digital values can be shifted-out far faster than analog values. So a row can be processed far far faster in the digital domain. Likely many times faster than can a row in the V1. (It's possible to increase this performance by outputting multiple digital values per clock tick.)

Not only can't the EX1 EXMOR chips be fairly compared to the V1's CMOS chips, the new Z7/S270 will use 3ClearVid CMOS chips that incorporate EXMOR technology. This will greatly improve S/N ratio. It's not known if more than four values will be fed to the EIP chip per clock tick. Likely not.

Peter Moretti December 2nd, 2007 04:05 AM

Does EXMOR use ClearVid's pixel pattern and ratio of considerably more green than blue or red sesnors than you'd find in a Bayer pattern?

Steve Mullen December 2nd, 2007 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Moretti (Post 785758)
Does EXMOR use ClearVid's pixel pattern and ratio of considerably more green than blue or red sesnors than you'd find in a Bayer pattern?

EXMOR tek can be applied to both 1920x1080 and 960x1080 rez systems as well as DSLR CMOS chips. The EX1 gets 1920x1080 chips. The Z7/S270 gets 960x1080 3ClearVid chips.

Both systems get 1920x1080 images at 60Hz.

Bob Grant December 2nd, 2007 07:19 AM

Something doesn't quite ring true in that explaination. Firstly noise is random by definition. You cannot remove the noise from one sample by subtracting the value from a second sample, its going to be different. You can take two complete sample and average them to reduce noise though.
Secondly if you're trying to read the dark current noise from that second sample then as the camera doesn't have a shutter and the photodiodes are still exposed to the light then something like a flash could give way off kilter noise values and lead to a completely mangled frame.
Using multiple A/D converters is one way to speed up reading the sensor but it can have problems, just look at the HD100s early issues.

Steve Mullen December 2nd, 2007 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Grant (Post 785779)
You can take two complete sample and average them to reduce noise though.

Secondly if you're trying to read the dark current noise from that second sample then as the camera doesn't have a shutter and the photodiodes are still exposed to the light then something like a flash could give way off kilter noise values and lead to a completely mangled frame.

Using multiple A/D converters is one way to speed up reading the sensor but it can have problems, just look at the HD100s early issues.

1) Two analog values, from the two S&H, are "combined" to a single value. Subtracted -- because the voltages are always positive. The result is that the "voltage" inherent to the particular element is canceled.

2) Obviously, the amplifier's resting (no light) voltage itself is not "noise" -- but when all their tiny variations are imposed on a light capture (say an even gray) they create "fixed pattern" noise which traditionally has been a CMOS weakness. That's why these voltages are called "noise."

3) The Potential Well requires TIME to accumulate a signal based upon light. Since the second sample is taken instantaneously after the Row Reset -- there is NO TIME -- hence no signal other than from the element's own amplifier.

CDS is used by all modern CMOS chips -- including your V1.

4) As you say -- the HD100 had early PROCESS problems that were fixed in a short time. The second generation HD250 didn't. Anyway, EXMOR technology is already in use in Sony DSLR cameras.

PS: The other way to speed-up a chip is faster clock rates that require greater power hence yielding more heat dissipation hence other problems. And, much greater power consumption. Not the way to go.

Carroll Lam December 2nd, 2007 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Mullen (Post 785745)
...To me this sounds like there is an on-board A/D for each column.

In this presentation at the recent GV Expo, Sony confirms that:

http://ieba.wordpress.com/2007/11/29...-s270-hvr-z7u/

Carroll Lam

Ron Evans December 2nd, 2007 09:28 AM

This diagram in the Sony information seems to show A/D per column, its on page 4.
http://www.sonybiz.net/res/attachmen...3315642481.pdf

Ron Evans

Steve Mullen December 2nd, 2007 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Evans (Post 785815)
This diagram in the Sony information seems to show A/D per column, its on page 4.
http://www.sonybiz.net/res/attachmen...3315642481.pdf

Ron Evans

Great find! I also love this text:
"The pixel shift interpolation technique has been
traditionally used in small 3CCD camcorders. However,
it normally requires the combination of all three colour
element (RGB) signals to maximise resolution. If an object
lacks one or more colour elements, the
resolution of the object may be degraded."

From my V1 book:
"By combining output from all three CCDs, both horizontal and vertical resolution is increased up to 150-percent on B&W static images. Naturally, that leads to the question of how real is the extra resolution obtained by using pixel-shift technology. The complex answer is that with pixel-shift technology, effective resolution is a function of the colors, the color patterns, and the motion of objects in a scene. The claimed increase of 1.5X is far too generous. The typical value is only 115-percent.
Therefore, while pixel-shift is a good solution, it is not as good as using higher resolution CCDs."

From my Z1 book: "The White and Black Fence (see the attached very crude diagram) has a luma signal that varies from 2 to 6: a range of 4 that indicates a maximum resolution—as shown in the Figure 5.1. A Green and Black Fence has a luma signal that is constant at 2; a range of zero that indicates resolution will be far more limited—as shown in the Figure 5.2."

Sony also adds an important addition to pixel shift:
"The 3 ClearVid CMOS Sensor system is different. It can
always produce maximum resolution, regardless of the
balance between colour elements, thanks to its unique
and sophisticated interpolation technology."

There is a critical difference between "passive" pixel shift (Canon and Panasonic) and "active" -- DSP-based 2D FIR -- interpolation of "pixel shifted" signals as provided by Sony. The V1's EIP chip does the interpolation. Other cameras that use "pixel shift" do not have an "EIP" interpolation chip.

Thomas Smet December 3rd, 2007 11:20 AM

I would even go as far as to say if your RGB color lacks any green component then the pixel shift isn't going to do anything at all. There are a lot of colors in the world that can be made up of only blue and red components. In fact 2/3rds of the colors.

Peter Moretti December 4th, 2007 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Mullen (Post 785761)
EXMOR tek can be applied to both 1920x1080 and 960x1080 rez systems as well as DSLR CMOS chips. The EX1 gets 1920x1080 chips. The Z7/S270 gets 960x1080 3ClearVid chips.

Both systems get 1920x1080 images at 60Hz.

Steve,

Maybe I'm missing something, but your respones, while interesting, doesn't seem to answer the question of if the EX1's EXMOR chip uses higher ratio of green pixels to blue & red pixels than a Bayer patterns does.

Evan Donn December 4th, 2007 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Moretti (Post 787245)
Maybe I'm missing something, but your respones, while interesting, doesn't seem to answer the question of if the EX1's EXMOR chip uses higher ratio of green pixels to blue & red pixels than a Bayer patterns does.

The EX1 has three chips with 1920x1080 sensors each - so the ratio is 1:1 in terms of green pixels to red and/or blue - I believe that is always the case with 3-chip cameras.

Greg Boston December 4th, 2007 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Smet (Post 786470)
I would even go as far as to say if your RGB color lacks any green component then the pixel shift isn't going to do anything at all. There are a lot of colors in the world that can be made up of only blue and red components. In fact 2/3rds of the colors.

With all due respect, Thomas, it's a known fact that green is the predominant color in most scenes we view. This is precisely why the green channel is pixel shifted. Also, if you ever look at the prism block of a 3 chip camera, the green gets the straight path, while the red and blue go top and bottom.

Want more proof? In the NTSC system, when color TV standards were devised, they determined that green is the predominant color in most average scenes. Green is not really transmitted because it would take up too much bandwidth. Instead, color difference signals are created for the small percentage of red and blue, and whatever percentage is left over, must be green. It was a clever way to create color tv without using a larger bandwidth.

-gb-

David Heath December 4th, 2007 06:55 PM

Thomas's point is an interesting one, but in practice the response curves of the sensors have considerable overlaps in terms of spectral response - it would be wrong to think of the responses as three mutually exclusive blocks. Hence, very few light sources are ever likely to stimulate only one of the three colours. (And that is why I understand green to be pixel shifted with relation to red/blue - it's spectral response overlaps both of the others.) That said, the advantages of pixel shift will undoubtably be at their best for black and white images (such as a test chart.........), and at their worst when highly saturated colours are involved. (Which may lessen it's benefits for green screen shooting.)

I agree strongly with Steve's previous post:
"By combining output from all three CCDs, both horizontal and vertical resolution is increased up to 150-percent on B&W static images. .......The complex answer is that with pixel-shift technology, effective resolution is a function of the colors, the color patterns, and the motion of objects in a scene. The claimed increase of 1.5X is far too generous. The typical value is only 115-percent."

But putting numbers to the increase is of limited value. Even if you accept it will be between 115% and 150%, that says nothing about the mtf value of that detail level - the contrast of the fine detail.

Peter Moretti December 5th, 2007 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Evan Donn (Post 787251)
The EX1 has three chips with 1920x1080 sensors each - so the ratio is 1:1 in terms of green pixels to red and/or blue - I believe that is always the case with 3-chip cameras.

Of course that seems aboslutely logical. Except that the FX1 and FX7 both use three ClearVid sensors. Purportedly the same sensor used in the HDR-HC3. (And one of the design characteristics of ClearVid is more green pixels than found in other sensor designs.) So yes you illuminate a point that has me scratching my head... and also feeling like I worry about ClearVid too much.

Ola Christoffersson December 5th, 2007 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Moretti (Post 787521)
Of course that seems aboslutely logical. Except that the FX1 and FX7 both use three ClearVid sensors. Purportedly the same sensor used in the HDR-HC3. (And one of the design characteristics of ClearVid is more green pixels than found in other sensor designs.) So yes you illuminate a point that has me scratching my head... and also feeling like I worry about ClearVid too much.

Ok - I'm no good at this but I can't stop myself from sticking my head out... Aren't you mixing apples and pears here? The Exmor-chip used in the new Sony stills camera must be a different beast from the one in the EX1. As far as I understand all SLR-cameras are one-chip-solutions. So an Exmore och Clearvid chip for an SLR must have all three colour components but the chip for camcorders should be monocrome since there is one chip per colour. Right?


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