What is your approach to dealing with actors stepping on one another's lines? at DVinfo.net
DV Info Net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Special Interest Areas > Techniques for Independent Production
Register FAQ Today's Posts Buyer's Guides

Techniques for Independent Production
The challenges of creating Digital Cinema and other narrative forms.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old June 2nd, 2006, 09:28 PM   #1
Trustee
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brookline, MA
Posts: 1,447
What is your approach to dealing with actors stepping on one another's lines?

Is it possible to get actors to talk without stepping their lines, while maintaining urgency?
Emre Safak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2006, 12:30 AM   #2
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Makati, Metro Manila
Posts: 2,706
Images: 32
That's a bad sign, it means they're not listening or reacting to each other. They're just waiting for the other one to finish so they can say their line. Basically, they're giving you a rehearsal/line reading, but they're not performing.

First thing I'd do is take the focus off the lines, and place it on their behaviour. Give them permission to slow down and react to each other. I'd tell them that their reactions and behaviour towards each other are more important to the scene than the actual lines. Fast and sloppy doesn't equal urgent. Trying to go slowly, clearly, and deliberately can enhance the urgency of a scene.

An exercise that might help, is to have only one actor speak, while the other one only reacts - physically. Then do the same in reverse. Do it slowly and deliberately, giving them permission to react/behave without consequences. You could even go so far as to call for the next line, then say, "react" and give all the focus and attention to the actor who is reacting. Make sure to reward the behaviour with praise and support. Analyze and correct after the performance is completed.

Another way to think about it/direct it - we, the audience wants to see the character's behaviour, that's the main way the actors communicate with the audience, lines of dialogue are like a cherry on top, they just clarify and sweeten what's already there. I have feeling the actors are really focused on the lines and not their behaviour.

Also check your own behaviour, you may be un-intentionally rewarding the line reading instead of the performance, once again focus on praising the performance and their behaviour while consciously taking the focus off the lines.

Hope that helps.
__________________
"Ultimately, the most extraordinary thing, in a frame, is a human being." - Martin Scorsese
Michael Wisniewski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2006, 07:02 PM   #3
Trustee
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brookline, MA
Posts: 1,447
Yes, very much!
Emre Safak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 4th, 2006, 04:25 PM   #4
New Boot
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Dallas, TX (214)
Posts: 23
I think it's also OK to tell your actors that you need a clean read so don't step on each other's lines. I spent many years as a professional actor and while I always appreciated direction that was organic and based on character motivation, I was equally fine with direction that dealt with technique, such as "pick up the pace" or "slow it down" or "don't step on each other's lines." There are many outstanding performances where overlapping dialogue has worked to the benefit of the show, but if it's wrong for a project I'm directing, I just let the talent know what I need.
__________________
Russ Jolly, owner/producer/director: 214 Media | Dallas, TX video production and multimedia company
Russ Jolly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 4th, 2006, 04:40 PM   #5
Capt. Quirk
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia
Posts: 3,596
Try using a remote controlled shock coller, like for training dogs...
__________________
www.SmokeWagonLeather.us
K. Forman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 4th, 2006, 05:02 PM   #6
New Boot
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Dallas, TX (214)
Posts: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith Forman
Try using a remote controlled shock coller, like for training dogs...
LOL. This is the best advice of the three responses so far!
__________________
Russ Jolly, owner/producer/director: 214 Media | Dallas, TX video production and multimedia company
Russ Jolly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 4th, 2006, 11:09 PM   #7
Trustee
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA
Posts: 1,675
I've actually gotten good results asking my actors to slow down and pause between lines so I had editing options...when given a reason, they fell right in line with the need to separate the dialog. I also do my singles with a line reader off camera (often the other actor) and have the option to have them redo the line right then. It kills the organic flow of the scene, but it makes it easier to make sure you have the footage you need to edit. I reward this by letting my actors redo lines they didn't like either right when they are in the mood for it. I love shooting singles. You can have them dial in emotions so much better than when they're doing the master shot.
__________________
Web Youtube Facebook
Cole McDonald is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 5th, 2006, 06:26 AM   #8
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 6,810
More experienced actors need only to be reminded "watch the overlaps" and they can maintain the pace without stepping on each other. Suggesting an actor to add pauses solely for this purpose is a possible invitation to chewing up the scenery--actors love dramatic pauses and big reaction beats, but for many projects it's just too slow. A common mistake for newer filmmakers is to believe that this sort of acting is more powerful; more likely for the viewer it's just ponderous.

Sometimes if you know that a scene or sections of a scene will play in a master, you can allow the overlaps--letting the actors know when and where this is appropriate is a good sign to them that you know what you are doing. FYI, on industry sets the request to avoid overlaps is usually passed on by the sound department, from the mixer via the boom operator.
__________________
Charles Papert
www.charlespapert.com
Charles Papert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 5th, 2006, 06:36 AM   #9
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 1,933
And then there's the Robert Altman school of directing,

"More overlaps, please..."
__________________
All the best,
Robert K S

Search DVinfo.net for quick answers | The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors
Robert Knecht Schmidt is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY USA

Scan Computers Int. Ltd.
+44 0871-472-4747
Bolton, Lancashire UK


DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Special Interest Areas > Techniques for Independent Production


 



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:19 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2024 The Digital Video Information Network