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Frank Goertzen · May 2nd, 2003, 01:21 AM

http://ooturing.psychz.net/temp/staircase.jpg
http://ooturing.psychz.net/temp/stthomas22.png

You can obviously tell which was shot with an xl1s and which was 'fixed' in post(if not 1st post, 2nd original) I think that the first one is pretty or as close as I'm getting to a 'film look' any suggestions?

Rob Lohman · May 2nd, 2003, 05:17 AM

As close to what? I think they both look fine, but the first one is
truly spectacular! I really love that look. Superb job!!!

Frank Goertzen · May 2nd, 2003, 08:59 AM

[Close to the film look]

Dylan Couper · May 2nd, 2003, 09:22 AM

I like the second one better.

Christopher Hughes · May 2nd, 2003, 12:48 PM

I like the first one, but prefer the 2nd one cos it seems more crisper that the 1st one which looks too soft to the point of looking like out of focus. But thats just my opinion.

Regarding the first one - have you anyother photos showing that look in other lighting situations with people in. I'd be interested on that very softness if its "useabl" with people rather than just objects.

Derrick Begin · May 2nd, 2003, 01:11 PM

Excellent foreboding staircase...

The original(2) is cold and ominous. The touched one(2) is warmed up a bit by the yellow.

What a great stair well! Very active photo. Depending what you want to do with it or where it fits in the story, I think the original is a great base.

How far did the stairs extend down? Could you see the bottom? I'm just curious about the range of blacks and the detail contained.

Cheers!

Frank Goertzen · May 2nd, 2003, 03:15 PM

We don't have any other shots of any subjects on the staircase although we might soon. And are story is a little out of focus at the moment to. But thanks for the interest.

Dylan Couper · May 3rd, 2003, 08:22 AM

The over manipulation of the colour in the first one distracts me from the subject matter.
So instead of thinking "Wow, that's a cool staircase"
I think "Wow, he spent some time in post on that."

Which is better?

Frank Goertzen · May 3rd, 2003, 09:17 AM

The first one heh.

Cazi Brasga · May 5th, 2003, 02:45 AM

The first pic looks like something that would be in matrix, with the green tint.
In case you didn't notice, whenever they are in the matrix there is a a subtle green tint to everything and when they are out of the matrix, everything is "normal".

Zac Stein · May 5th, 2003, 03:30 AM

How was that effect achieved in the first one?

Rob Lohman · May 5th, 2003, 04:15 AM

Cazi: actually the "normal" world has a blue cast to it. The matrix
world is indeed green.

Akos Szemenyei · May 7th, 2003, 10:36 AM

One word, terrible, but if you add some lights and recreate the mood without the crushed blacks and grain, I think it can be an amazing looking shoot.

Derrick Begin · May 7th, 2003, 11:40 AM

Akos,

Thats what I was looking for. How can you tell from this still photo regarding the crushed blacks? I assumed that if you can't see a range from light black to deep blacks ala the details at the bottom of the staircase...

Let me know.

Cheers

Akos Szemenyei · May 9th, 2003, 07:59 AM

Hmm... I'm not sure if I use the term crushed blacks corectly, but all the grain comes from the lack of lighting and that in turn (the way I express it) is crushing the blacks, since it's more gray now and basically your blacks are gone.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

May 2nd, 2003, 01:21 AM	#1
Frank Goertzen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 43	Review? http://ooturing.psychz.net/temp/staircase.jpg http://ooturing.psychz.net/temp/stthomas22.png You can obviously tell which was shot with an xl1s and which was 'fixed' in post(if not 1st post, 2nd original) I think that the first one is pretty or as close as I'm getting to a 'film look' any suggestions? __________________ Patiently Waiting

May 2nd, 2003, 05:17 AM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	As close to what? I think they both look fine, but the first one is truly spectacular! I really love that look. Superb job!!! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 2nd, 2003, 08:59 AM	#3
Frank Goertzen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 43	[Close to the film look] __________________ Patiently Waiting

May 2nd, 2003, 09:22 AM	#4
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	I like the second one better. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

May 2nd, 2003, 03:15 PM	#7
Frank Goertzen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 43	We don't have any other shots of any subjects on the staircase although we might soon. And are story is a little out of focus at the moment to. But thanks for the interest. __________________ Patiently Waiting

May 2nd, 2003, 12:48 PM	#5
Christopher Hughes Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sunderland, England (y Merida, Mexico) Posts: 269	I like the first one, but prefer the 2nd one cos it seems more crisper that the 1st one which looks too soft to the point of looking like out of focus. But thats just my opinion. Regarding the first one - have you anyother photos showing that look in other lighting situations with people in. I'd be interested on that very softness if its "useabl" with people rather than just objects.

May 2nd, 2003, 01:11 PM	#6
Derrick Begin Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York Posts: 329	Excellent foreboding staircase... The original(2) is cold and ominous. The touched one(2) is warmed up a bit by the yellow. What a great stair well! Very active photo. Depending what you want to do with it or where it fits in the story, I think the original is a great base. How far did the stairs extend down? Could you see the bottom? I'm just curious about the range of blacks and the detail contained. Cheers!

May 3rd, 2003, 08:22 AM	#8
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	The over manipulation of the colour in the first one distracts me from the subject matter. So instead of thinking "Wow, that's a cool staircase" I think "Wow, he spent some time in post on that." Which is better? __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

May 3rd, 2003, 09:17 AM	#9
Frank Goertzen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 43	The first one heh. __________________ Patiently Waiting

May 5th, 2003, 02:45 AM	#10
Cazi Brasga New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 5	The first pic looks like something that would be in matrix, with the green tint. In case you didn't notice, whenever they are in the matrix there is a a subtle green tint to everything and when they are out of the matrix, everything is "normal".

May 5th, 2003, 03:30 AM	#11
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	How was that effect achieved in the first one?

May 5th, 2003, 04:15 AM	#12
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Cazi: actually the "normal" world has a blue cast to it. The matrix world is indeed green. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 7th, 2003, 10:36 AM	#13
Akos Szemenyei Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Saitama, Japan Posts: 111	One word, terrible, but if you add some lights and recreate the mood without the crushed blacks and grain, I think it can be an amazing looking shoot.

May 7th, 2003, 11:40 AM	#14
Derrick Begin Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York Posts: 329	Akos, Thats what I was looking for. How can you tell from this still photo regarding the crushed blacks? I assumed that if you can't see a range from light black to deep blacks ala the details at the bottom of the staircase... Let me know. Cheers

May 9th, 2003, 07:59 AM	#15
Akos Szemenyei Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Saitama, Japan Posts: 111	Hmm... I'm not sure if I use the term crushed blacks corectly, but all the grain comes from the lack of lighting and that in turn (the way I express it) is crushing the blacks, since it's more gray now and basically your blacks are gone. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.