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Old September 5th, 2008, 06:50 AM   #1
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Putting a video clip on a TV inside a film

Hello,
In a scene in the film Iím producing two characters are watching TV, we filmed the TV off with nothing playing on it and it was decided by the DP, no longer with us, that itíd be better to put the movie on the TV in post. He said itíd be a piece of cake. Since he was the one who knew how to do that, I'm going to have to do it now.
Does anybody has an idea how to do that in Vegas 7?
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Old September 5th, 2008, 07:13 AM   #2
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Is it a locked down shot?

You can add the video on a track above the other track and then use Track Motion to resize it into position. To truly match the TV, you may also need to use Bezier masking in Pan/Crop and trim it slightly that way.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 08:19 AM   #3
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I would have thought you may also have to play about with other effects such as levels etc to try and make it look realistic. And if it isn't a locked down shot then it could be a very time consuming process as you will have to keyframe the mask.

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Old September 5th, 2008, 09:05 AM   #4
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Thank you both of you for your answers, but what do you call a lock down shot?
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Old September 5th, 2008, 09:14 AM   #5
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Thank you both of you for your answers, but what do you call a lock down shot?
Hi Larry,

One in which a tripod is used, and there are no pan nor tilts.

It makes the illusion more believable and the effect easier to do.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 09:15 AM   #6
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"Locked down" means that the camera is on a tripod and the shot doesn't change in any way - even a tiny bit.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 09:19 AM   #7
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Oh, yes, of course, yes we took care of that knowing that we would have to put the clip in post, so yes, I'm covered there.
So I guess I'm going to try to follow some of the way described above in the link.
Never played with bezier before. I bet this is going to be a headache, uh?
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Old September 5th, 2008, 09:29 AM   #8
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You may want to put some sort of scan line effect over it to make it look more realistic.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 09:40 AM   #9
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Come on, people will think my cam doesn't have clearscan then! Kidding.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 10:37 AM   #10
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Never played with bezier before. I bet this is going to be a headache, uh?
Once you start playing with them, beziers aren't really that difficult.
Grab Vol. 3 Issue 3 of Edward Troxel's newsletters and check out the article "Beginnerís Corner - Bezier Masks".

Here's a tip I grabbed from a Vegas forum somewhere that may help.

1 - Create an AP (anchor point)

2 - Change Cursor tool to "Normal Edit Tool" [NET]

3 - Click OFF or away from the Mask ( the Anchors will disappear)

4 - Move NET back towards the Mask and you will see the LINES/PATH light up

5 - Left Click on the ANCHOR you wish to move and ALL your other points will appear as OPEN squares. This means, for me, I HAVE selected the ANCHOR I want to move.

6 - LEFT Click on the anchor and Drag.

7 - Now try this on the other Anchor points!

TIPS:
T1: Click on/middle of a JOINING line and the APs at either end will light up.
If you now LEFT Click on one of these points you can DRAG the joining line around the work area.

T2: Shift Select Points.
This will allow me to move COLLECTIONS of points and their joining lines!
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Old September 5th, 2008, 03:45 PM   #11
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Also, if the TV isn't parallel to the camera you may have to do some 3D track motion on your TV picture to keep the perspective right.

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Old September 5th, 2008, 08:47 PM   #12
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Mike and Ian, thanks for the tip and advice.
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it may not matter but if u use a touch of Spherize with Ian's 3D trick it may help sell the shot.

also applying Computer RGB to Studio RBG filter to the tv-image so its look is correct in the room environment... hope that made sense.
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it may not matter but if u use a touch of Spherize with Ian's 3D trick it may help sell the shot.
I've used Deform FX to get tighter perspective that I couldn't achieve with 3D.

But yes, Bezier Mask + 3d. You might also wish to provide it with a Parent control so you can position this thing overall. - it is just another control that can get you outta jail quickly.

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