Can't render large project to an AVI file . at DVinfo.net

Michael Ojjeh · May 10th, 2009, 10:35 AM

I have 1hour and 50min project and I am trying to render it so I can burn it to a DVD.
When I render the file to an AVI file I get this error:

"The file being renderd has exceeded the maximum size allowed for the selected format."

The Project prroperties is HDV 1080-60i
The render template is NTSC DV Widescreen (Video for Windows (*AVI).

I have not done any long project on Vegas8 all short web projects. and I never had this problem before.
I must be missing somthing here !!!

Any HELP will be appreciated !!!!

Jeff Harper · May 10th, 2009, 10:47 AM

I'm not sure why you are rendering an .avi file for DVD. Render to a DVD template that will suit your DVD project.

avi will have to be re-rendered in DVDA and DVDA will take forever and be a second render when you don't need it.

Render from Vegas to the appropriate format and you will be done and can take in the finshed render to DVDA and burn without any trouble.

I don't burn blu-ray so I can't give you any specific suggestions on templates.

Michael Ojjeh · May 10th, 2009, 10:52 AM

Jeff, I did try to use DVDA template but the video came out very interlaced so I am trying to do it in AVI.
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/what-happ...-2-vegas8.html

Edward Troxel · May 10th, 2009, 12:30 PM

A few things to check... did you change any settings?

Options - Preferences:
Ignore third party DV codecs - checked
Use Microsoft DV codec - UNchecked
Strictly Conform to AVI2 specification - UNchecked

File - Render As - Video tab
Create an OpenDML (AVI version 2.0) compatible file - checked

Also make sure you're rendering to a drive formatted as NTFS and not FAT32.

Michael Ojjeh · May 10th, 2009, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel

A few things to check... did you change any settings?

Options - Preferences:
Ignore third party DV codecs - checked
Use Microsoft DV codec - UNchecked
Strictly Conform to AVI2 specification - UNchecked

File - Render As - Video tab
Create an OpenDML (AVI version 2.0) compatible file - checked

Also make sure you're rendering to a drive formatted as NTFS and not FAT32.

Edward, I have all the above in the right place, the only thing I don't about is "creat an openDmL"
I have done it many times in MPEG-2, But now I keep getting nterlaced video and I don't know how to render to MPEG-2 with deinterlacing. I don't see that option anywhere.

What setting do you recommend for DVDA NTSC template, I tried every DVDA Template but still getting interlaced video.

Jeff Harper · May 10th, 2009, 05:50 PM

I don't understand what is wrong. If you are shooting 60i it should be rendered 60i for DVD shouldn't it? What are you shooting with and what were your settings?

Michael Ojjeh · May 10th, 2009, 06:14 PM

I am shooting 60i , and that is my project setting (HDV 1080-60i(1440x1080)
I tried upper,lower and scan field order in the project properties and the render template to match it.

I am going out of my mind on this, I must have rendered to MPEG-2 hundred of times with out any problems. but now I keep getting interlaced video on every template I try.

It must be somthing so easy but I can't put my hand on it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dale Guthormsen · May 10th, 2009, 06:43 PM

Michael,

I do not know why you are going avi.

Render it to mainconcept mp2, go to the properties, make sure progressive is not checked, or interpolate fields.

the default will be interlaced.

This will render you a dvd compliant file.

1hr 40 min is pretty long for a dvd if you have done any work on it at all. Definitely dual layer needy!!

Standard definiton right?

Jeff Harper · May 10th, 2009, 06:44 PM

Dale, I already asked him your question and he has answered: his footage is coming out distorted and he was going to try avi as a way to fix it.

Michael, as an experiment try rendering to WMV 8mbps hd 1080-30p and play it back and see how it looks. Do you know how to select a portion of the timeline and just render the section (so you don't have to render the whole thing)?

Michael Ojjeh · May 10th, 2009, 06:54 PM

Jeff,
I will try that right now, and yes I have benn selecting just 5min on the timeline to experiment.

Jeff Harper · May 10th, 2009, 06:56 PM

Great, I'll be back in a few minutes and look forward to hearing your results.

Jeff Harper · May 10th, 2009, 07:00 PM

It just occurred to me, Michael: Did you shoot in HD for sure? What kind of camera are you shooting with? You didn't shoot in 16:9 SD, right?

Don Bloom · May 10th, 2009, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Guthormsen

Michael,

1hr 40 min is pretty long for a dvd if you have done any work on it at all. Definitely dual layer needy!!

Standard definiton right?

Long? Hardly. DL. Why?
At 100 minutes with AC3 audio encoding the average bitrate for SD would be 5.829 which is something I do all the time and frankly the quality doesn't suffer at all. No need for DL in this case.

Michael Ojjeh · May 10th, 2009, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

It just occurred to me, Michael: Did you shoot in HD for sure? What kind of camera are you shooting with? You didn't shoot in 16:9 SD, right?

I did shoot in HD 60i, I did a three camera shoot for a fashion show, I have 2 A1 and one H1, I did this last year and I came out very good. Untitled Document

I did render in WMV 8mbps HD 1080-30p and it looks much better, but still when there is big motion the picture still shows some intrelacing on the edge. not as sharp !!!

Michael Ojjeh · May 10th, 2009, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Bloom

Long? Hardly. DL. Why?
At 100 minutes with AC3 audio encoding the average bitrate for SD would be 5.829 which is something I do all the time and frankly the quality doesn't suffer at all. No need for DL in this case.

I agree, I had the same project last year and I lower the bitrate and no one will ever know.

May 10th, 2009, 10:35 AM	#1
Michael Ojjeh Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 338	Can't render large project to an AVI file . I have 1hour and 50min project and I am trying to render it so I can burn it to a DVD. When I render the file to an AVI file I get this error: "The file being renderd has exceeded the maximum size allowed for the selected format." The Project prroperties is HDV 1080-60i The render template is NTSC DV Widescreen (Video for Windows (*AVI). I have not done any long project on Vegas8 all short web projects. and I never had this problem before. I must be missing somthing here !!! Any HELP will be appreciated !!!! __________________ Dragonfly Production http://www.dragonflyproduction.net/ http://www.vimeo.com/user432181

May 10th, 2009, 10:52 AM	#3
Michael Ojjeh Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 338	Jeff, I did try to use DVDA template but the video came out very interlaced so I am trying to do it in AVI. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/what-happ...-2-vegas8.html __________________ Dragonfly Production http://www.dragonflyproduction.net/ http://www.vimeo.com/user432181

May 10th, 2009, 12:30 PM	#4
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	A few things to check... did you change any settings? Options - Preferences: Ignore third party DV codecs - checked Use Microsoft DV codec - UNchecked Strictly Conform to AVI2 specification - UNchecked File - Render As - Video tab Create an OpenDML (AVI version 2.0) compatible file - checked Also make sure you're rendering to a drive formatted as NTFS and not FAT32. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

May 10th, 2009, 06:14 PM	#7
Michael Ojjeh Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 338	I am shooting 60i , and that is my project setting (HDV 1080-60i(1440x1080) I tried upper,lower and scan field order in the project properties and the render template to match it. I am going out of my mind on this, I must have rendered to MPEG-2 hundred of times with out any problems. but now I keep getting interlaced video on every template I try. It must be somthing so easy but I can't put my hand on it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Dragonfly Production http://www.dragonflyproduction.net/ http://www.vimeo.com/user432181

May 10th, 2009, 06:43 PM	#8
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Michael, I do not know why you are going avi. Render it to mainconcept mp2, go to the properties, make sure progressive is not checked, or interpolate fields. the default will be interlaced. This will render you a dvd compliant file. 1hr 40 min is pretty long for a dvd if you have done any work on it at all. Definitely dual layer needy!! Standard definiton right? __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

May 10th, 2009, 10:47 AM	#2
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	I'm not sure why you are rendering an .avi file for DVD. Render to a DVD template that will suit your DVD project. avi will have to be re-rendered in DVDA and DVDA will take forever and be a second render when you don't need it. Render from Vegas to the appropriate format and you will be done and can take in the finshed render to DVDA and burn without any trouble. I don't burn blu-ray so I can't give you any specific suggestions on templates.

May 10th, 2009, 05:50 PM	#6
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	I don't understand what is wrong. If you are shooting 60i it should be rendered 60i for DVD shouldn't it? What are you shooting with and what were your settings?

May 10th, 2009, 06:44 PM	#9
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Dale, I already asked him your question and he has answered: his footage is coming out distorted and he was going to try avi as a way to fix it. Michael, as an experiment try rendering to WMV 8mbps hd 1080-30p and play it back and see how it looks. Do you know how to select a portion of the timeline and just render the section (so you don't have to render the whole thing)?

May 10th, 2009, 06:54 PM	#10
Michael Ojjeh Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 338	Jeff, I will try that right now, and yes I have benn selecting just 5min on the timeline to experiment. __________________ Dragonfly Production http://www.dragonflyproduction.net/ http://www.vimeo.com/user432181

May 10th, 2009, 06:56 PM	#11
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Great, I'll be back in a few minutes and look forward to hearing your results.

May 10th, 2009, 07:00 PM	#12
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	It just occurred to me, Michael: Did you shoot in HD for sure? What kind of camera are you shooting with? You didn't shoot in 16:9 SD, right?

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