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Old June 3rd, 2009, 04:15 AM   #1
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Need a quicktime file made with Vegas?

I have used vegas for years and now have moved on to Final Cut Pro so all my work is to do with Quicktime files.
I have some samples in Vegas that I would like to turn into a Quicktime file to play back on my MBP for a client.
Here is the problem when I render to the Quicktime template the thing renders but a message comes up saying unable to make a Quicktime file.
So I thought I would make a h.264 file but the quality is not what I'm after unless I can get h.246 uncompressed?
What are my options to get an uncompressed Quicktime file outa Vegas?


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Old June 3rd, 2009, 05:01 AM   #2
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You "shouldn't" be getting the message, so short of trying a reinstall of Vegas (I haven't had this problem so I don't know any solutions to the specific issue) I would render to avi uncompressed and take that into FCP and render to quicktime. As long as FCP will take avi you should be fine.
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 07:17 AM   #3
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Why not just render an uncompressed AVI file and then use Quicktime Pro on your Mac to convert it to an MOV file?
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 07:26 AM   #4
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Yeah I know AVI to Quicktime is the answer.
Thanks guys.

I have to say I used Vegas for years and now that I'm editing with FCP I've lost all my Vegas skills. One this I miss is the audio tools with Vegas.

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Old June 3rd, 2009, 08:23 AM   #5
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Sorry another problem.
When I render out to AVI it's giving me a 4:3 aspect.
My settings are 1440 x 1080i par is 1.33
Why is it rendering out to 4:3 do you think?

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Old June 3rd, 2009, 08:38 AM   #6
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Sorry, I have no idea.
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 09:23 AM   #7
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Try changing the Frame Size of the Render As... dialog box. It's in the Custom button > Video tab. There's a setting the change the Frame Size to (Use Project Settings)
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 11:06 AM   #8
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Sorry another problem.
When I render out to AVI it's giving me a 4:3 aspect.
My settings are 1440 x 1080i par is 1.33
Why is it rendering out to 4:3 do you think?

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If the above suggestions don't work for you, the brute-force method for dealing with non-square pixels is to render to a square-pixel format. For your hdv originated material at 1440x1080 pixels @ 1.33 par, the equivalent is 1920x1080@1.0.

These sorts of problems almost always relate to PAR flagging being incorrectly set by the user, incorrectly set by the encoder, or incorrectly interpreted by the decoder.
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 07:07 PM   #9
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Damn Seth, how do you know all this stuff?

Simon, Seth's tips with rendering to avi has helped me before with other sizes of things, so definitely try his tip if Michaels tip doesn't work.
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 07:31 PM   #10
 
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Simon,
If your goal is to playback great looking video on your MBP, I'll recommend two turns not mentioned here.
A-1920 x 1080 AVC... plays great in QT.
B-MXF file 1440 x 1080. You'll need the (free) Sony .mxf plugin for FCP. These too, play in QT Pro, and are stunning. They'll also be editable in FCP and Vegas alike.
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 11:18 PM   #11
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Thanks DSE,
I have been playing around with 1920 x 1080 AVC mpeg4 but what compression setting do I use.
I have tried Max (bps) @ 20k and Avg @ 14k
Results are good but still some compression going on.
Maybe I need to crank up the bitrate more?
I want to show a client clean footage, could you recommend the compression setting.

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Old June 4th, 2009, 12:52 AM   #12
 
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It's AVC. Expect some minor artifacting depending on the detail and motion.
You might try rendering the highest motion/deepest detail section as both 50Mbps mxf and 24Mbps AVC.
Compare them. The mxf will likely win out and your system should have little trouble playing it back.
You didn't mention the source.
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Old June 4th, 2009, 01:46 AM   #13
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My source is Sony Z1 shot @ 1440 x 1080i Pal
The sequence setting is also the same as footage shot.

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