What's the most common reason why Vegas can't render and shuts off? at DVinfo.net

Norris Combs · February 3rd, 2011, 01:08 AM

Footage is 1920 x 1080 30i, I'm trying to render out to the same quality. I suspect it's my computer that's not up to it. Vegas closes a few seconds after I start the render. My PC: XP, Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40 ghz, 3.25 GB RAM, hard drive is 750 GB.

This PC was able to render to 1440 x 1080.

Thanks,

Leslie Wand · February 3rd, 2011, 01:10 AM

just the one hd?

how much space?

if so try getting an external and render to that....

Norris Combs · February 3rd, 2011, 09:17 AM

Oh, I have 2 hard drives. The C drive for the OS and all the program files, E drive is only for my videos. Each is 750 GB.

Jeff Harper · February 3rd, 2011, 11:36 AM

Your PC sounds underpowered for HD. I don't like working with HD on my i7, if that tells you anything.

Some folks use an intermediate program such as Cineform to make file more usable. That would help, but I personally dislike the process, and Cineform can introduce a whole new set of issues, as any software can do.

You have too little ram, a processor that is not optimized for this work, and if your HD is slow, you have a recipe for poor performance.

This would be a good time to buy the i7 processor, as they are inexpensive right now.

Some get by with the Q6600, but I can't imagine how they do it.

Buba Kastorski · February 3rd, 2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Norris Combs

Footage is 1920 x 1080 30i, I'm trying to render out to the same quality. I suspect it's my computer that's not up to it. Vegas closes a few seconds after I start the render. My PC: Thanks,

what footage was shot with, what's 30i, is it 60i? any conversion involved before Vegas?

Norris Combs · February 3rd, 2011, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Buba Kastorski

what footage was shot with, what's 30i, is it 60i? any conversion involved before Vegas?

My camcorder is Canon HF-S100. When I imported the video, it shows the resolution as 1920 x 1080 at 29.xx.

Norris Combs · February 3rd, 2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

Your PC sounds underpowered for HD. I don't like working with HD on my i7, if that tells you anything.

Some folks use an intermediate program such as Cineform to make file more usable. That would help, but I personally dislike the process, and Cineform can introduce a whole new set of issues, as any software can do.

You have too little ram, a processor that is not optimized for this work, and if your HD is slow, you have a recipe for poor performance.

This would be a good time to buy the i7 processor, as they are inexpensive right now.

Some get by with the Q6600, but I can't imagine how they do it.

Please explain why you don't like working with HD on your i7 PC, yet you're suggesting that I should buy one. Thanks,

Rainer Listing · February 3rd, 2011, 07:50 PM

Norris, you don't mention your operating system or which version of Vegas. The main reason for render crashes on 32 bit Vegas - if that's what you are running - is a 2GB memory cap. There are fixes which have been discussed in this forum, see http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-hap...y-torment.html

Norris Combs · February 3rd, 2011, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainer Listing

Norris, you don't mention your operating system or which version of Vegas. The main reason for render crashes on 32 bit Vegas - if that's what you are running - is a 2GB memory cap. There are fixes which have been discussed in this forum, see http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-hap...y-torment.html

OS is XP. Vegas Pro 8, 32 bit. I didn't know about the 2 GB memory cap. So even though I installed 4 GB, and it shows 3.25 is available for work, only 2 GB are being used?

Magnus Helander · February 4th, 2011, 09:35 AM

In my experience insufficient cooling on CPU & system is the main problem.
/m

Jeff Harper · February 4th, 2011, 09:45 AM

He's running his cpu at stock speed. Cooling should not be an issue. He is running what is now an nearly outdated CPU (at least for hd video) and he only has 3gb of ram. Upping his ram usage will likely do little to help with his current system.

But who knows.

Norris Combs · February 4th, 2011, 01:33 PM

I'm gonna build a new PC, can you guys suggest some minimum spec for the components? I believe the most important is CPU, motherboard, GPU, hard drives. If you already have a recent setup that works well for you, please list its compnents.

Thanks,

Rainer Listing · February 4th, 2011, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norris Combs

OS is XP. Vegas Pro 8, 32 bit. I didn't know about the 2 GB memory cap. So even though I installed 4 GB, and it shows 3.25 is available for work, only 2 GB are being used?

Yes. Do the memory hack and you should be sweet.

Leif Skoglund · February 5th, 2011, 06:27 AM

I'ver used the guides from these "guys" a couple of times:

Videoguys Blog - Videoguys' System Recommendations for Video Editing

Magnus Helander · February 6th, 2011, 08:03 AM

I wrote down some of my experiences with vegas, starting from v4 2003 ...

Magnus Helander - random findings / Optimizing Sony Vegas editing

/m

February 3rd, 2011, 01:08 AM	#1
Norris Combs Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: OC, CA Posts: 344	What's the most common reason why Vegas can't render and shuts off? Footage is 1920 x 1080 30i, I'm trying to render out to the same quality. I suspect it's my computer that's not up to it. Vegas closes a few seconds after I start the render. My PC: XP, Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40 ghz, 3.25 GB RAM, hard drive is 750 GB. This PC was able to render to 1440 x 1080. Thanks,

February 3rd, 2011, 01:10 AM	#2
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	just the one hd? how much space? if so try getting an external and render to that.... __________________ www.lesliewand.com.au

February 3rd, 2011, 11:36 AM	#4
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Your PC sounds underpowered for HD. I don't like working with HD on my i7, if that tells you anything. Some folks use an intermediate program such as Cineform to make file more usable. That would help, but I personally dislike the process, and Cineform can introduce a whole new set of issues, as any software can do. You have too little ram, a processor that is not optimized for this work, and if your HD is slow, you have a recipe for poor performance. This would be a good time to buy the i7 processor, as they are inexpensive right now. Some get by with the Q6600, but I can't imagine how they do it. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

February 4th, 2011, 09:35 AM	#10
Magnus Helander Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 221	Heat In my experience insufficient cooling on CPU & system is the main problem. /m __________________ Magnus Helander, Crossmediageek on G+

February 4th, 2011, 09:45 AM	#11
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	He's running his cpu at stock speed. Cooling should not be an issue. He is running what is now an nearly outdated CPU (at least for hd video) and he only has 3gb of ram. Upping his ram usage will likely do little to help with his current system. But who knows. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

February 3rd, 2011, 09:17 AM	#3
Norris Combs Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: OC, CA Posts: 344	Oh, I have 2 hard drives. The C drive for the OS and all the program files, E drive is only for my videos. Each is 750 GB.

February 3rd, 2011, 07:50 PM	#8
Rainer Listing Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Nowra, Australia Posts: 440	Norris, you don't mention your operating system or which version of Vegas. The main reason for render crashes on 32 bit Vegas - if that's what you are running - is a 2GB memory cap. There are fixes which have been discussed in this forum, see http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-hap...y-torment.html

February 4th, 2011, 01:33 PM	#12
Norris Combs Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: OC, CA Posts: 344	I'm gonna build a new PC, can you guys suggest some minimum spec for the components? I believe the most important is CPU, motherboard, GPU, hard drives. If you already have a recent setup that works well for you, please list its compnents. Thanks,

February 5th, 2011, 06:27 AM	#14
Leif Skoglund Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Troms Norway Posts: 59	I'ver used the guides from these "guys" a couple of times: Videoguys Blog - Videoguys' System Recommendations for Video Editing

February 6th, 2011, 08:03 AM	#15
Magnus Helander Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 221	I wrote down some of my experiences with vegas, starting from v4 2003 ... Magnus Helander - random findings / Optimizing Sony Vegas editing /m __________________ Magnus Helander, Crossmediageek on G+