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Old June 16th, 2011, 11:14 AM   #1
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Can Vegas do this?

If I wanted to do a chroma key and use handheld or another type of shot that involves any camera movement, can Vegas track the background plate to sync to the camera movement as well? If so, how Or is it necessary to use AE?
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Old June 16th, 2011, 11:23 AM   #2
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Old June 16th, 2011, 12:11 PM   #3
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AE is the standard for any effects work, don't look else where you'll only be disappointed.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 12:27 PM   #4
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You can do a lot of things in Vegas that most people do in AFX, the downside is its a lot slower and most often not worth it,
but,
If Vegas is all you have, dont be put off from having a go, apart from the learning experience, its very satisfying :)
If you do decide to do it, just ask if you want help.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 12:29 PM   #5
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I actually find a number of things quicker and easier to do in Vegas with the same quality of result. However, there are also many things where this isn't so.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 01:37 PM   #6
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AE is the standard for any effects work, don't look else where you'll only be disappointed.
Certainly in that price bracket - as you go up the ladder you'll find tools that outshine AE.

I'm absolutely with David and Gerald - there is SO much more than you can do in Vegas nowadays, with or without third party plugins. Yes, many tasks are much easier and quicker in AE, and many tasks simply can't be done in Vegas. Whether the gap will continue to shrink is questionable, although with many of the tools from NewBlue, Boris, Genarts etc it's getting to the stage where I think I could stick quite happily in Vegas 95% of the time.

If I could afford all those plugins, of course . . . ! (Which is true of AE also).

To comment on the OP's question, Boris BCC has motion tracking, if that's what you're after. There's a great tutorial on their YouTube channel.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 03:33 PM   #7
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Boris CC7 looks like a good option. Boris FX Online Store - Boris Continuum Complete 7 for Sony Vegas Pro 10 (Download) It's pricey though. $600.

The shoot is coming up fast. Perhaps I'll just shoot locked down And use either AE or Boris down the road to simulate camera movement for handheld and the corresponding plate movement. Q: I'll need to put tape marks on the screen right? How many and what arrangement on a 12x8 screen? Orange "X's"?
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Old June 16th, 2011, 04:28 PM   #8
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For instance, here are 2 I did last night,
The text, I think could be done in Vegas with standard tools and get a similar result, will try tonight and post back.
but,
The hospital monitor would take a million( exaggerated ) key frames and way to much time without the use of expressions that are available in AFX.
Again, I suppose billable hrs dont come into it, its more just about working on your "compositing chops" and satisfaction of doing something a little bit different than, cut and crossfade .
Ian, what tools are your talking about that are a levell above AFX? This nerd would love to download a trial, lol.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 04:41 PM   #9
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Gerald, I was thinking of things like Nuke/NukeX, Flame etc.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 04:56 PM   #10
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Thanks Ian, this is going to be cool....
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HOLY COW!!
I just looked at the price.... 8k.
Dont think the Chief Financial Controller will allow this one, lol.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 08:54 PM   #11
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You can rent it for 1600 GBP for 3 months.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 09:46 PM   #12
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$533.33 a month, $122.60 a week, $17.51 a day.... well thats less than 73c an hour.
How can I afford not to rent it?

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Old June 17th, 2011, 02:27 PM   #13
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I did a green screen key last week and Vegas really sucks when it comes to keying, AE has Keylight which does a beautiful job at keying & tracking is extremely easy with AE, as far as I know Vegas has no tracking functions. Nuke is brilliant but unless you are a full time professional effects artist it's overkill. You can get a 30 day trail for AE which is more than enough time to do what you need to do and if you want to subscribe it's only $85 a month for the entire Production suit from Adobe.
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Old June 17th, 2011, 02:29 PM   #14
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Keylight is better than Vegas's keyer, no question about it.

But Vegas's keyer doesn't suck. Before Premiere added the Ultra keyer with CS5, it was easily the best on-board NLE keyer.

You just have to know how to use it.
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Old June 17th, 2011, 04:46 PM   #15
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David the question was if it's necessary to use AE for tracking the background motion of hand-held footage in green screen and the answer is yes it's necessary to use AE - Vegas can't do it. I agree with you Vegas is a lot easier to use for many applications but it can't do what Brian is asking for. I know how to use the Chroma Keyer, I love Vegas but there are some things it sucks at.
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