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Old August 24th, 2004, 12:48 PM   #631
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This relates back to an earlier question I posted on the same topic, seeking a solution akin to Premiere's "Scenes" feature which is ideal for long-form projects such as films.

My own project (Coming Attractions Trailer almost ready for posting and comments) should wind down to almost 2 hours long, and as someone new to NLE's in general, this one feature is desperately needed.

One disadvantage to rendering a whole scene out first and then dropping within the full-lenght time line is that everytime you make a change, you have two projects to render instead of just one.

Does anyone know how we might get Sony's ear on this to suggest for an upcoming revision?

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Old August 24th, 2004, 01:05 PM   #632
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Here's your best bet:

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Old August 24th, 2004, 02:21 PM   #633
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I made the suggestion, we'll have to wait and see if Sony follows through.

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Old August 24th, 2004, 04:40 PM   #634
 
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Was supposed to have been out already. I don't know why it's not.
I do know that the exceptionally high number of screenshots is hard for layout people to work with. We've gone through this with 4 books now. Layout people hate high numbers of images. Takes FOREVER to get the Instant Series books out.
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Old August 24th, 2004, 11:30 PM   #635
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Just got back from Cinefest 2004 in Denver.

Saw the adobe people do their magic with after effects and was very impressed. Am I right in assuming that this is the program that can give me lots of amazing choices for CG work?

It really seemed excellent, and I think I might have to get it.

Also Doug Spotted Eagle was there and did an amazing demonstration of Vegas 5. It's definitely time to move up.

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Old August 25th, 2004, 09:25 AM   #636
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Any plug-ins or way to...

Working on such a long project there are a few things I miss from the Avid/FCP world. For example, is there anything out there that will allow me to color code my bins/folders in Vegas 5 now? I know you couldn't in 4. How about printing bin/folder/clip info? I felt more "secure" with a printed record of what's on which drive in the event of (god forbid) a crash. Also, while the search function in the Media Pool is a good start, is there a way to have it bring up which exact bin/folder the desired clip is in?

I'm sure more will occur to me as I crank along...
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Old August 25th, 2004, 10:14 AM   #637
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how much quality is lost?

This is what I've been doing:
1) I record video at 24p (Advanced) in my DVX100a
2) capture to PC using Vegas 4.0, via firewire. Save clips as .avi's
3) edit video
4) render as an .avi

however, then when I burn that avi to SVCD or just view it on my computer screen, the quality is absolute crap. Completely different from the beautiful image I see right after shooting when I view my dailies from the camera to any TV set with a set of AV cables.

What am I doing wrong, or how much quality is being lost from beginning to final product (the final avi file). Is there a better format I should be using other than avi? thanks..
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The AVI file should be fine. However, an SVCD is a highly compressed MPEG file which will be much lower in quality than the AVI file.
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Old August 25th, 2004, 10:53 AM   #639
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Ahh, media management blues... One of the things I really really love while working in Avid on long form docs.
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Old August 25th, 2004, 11:14 AM   #640
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three questions then

1) are .avi's compressed or uncompressed. is it the best format to capture to?
2) how do they compare to .mov?
3) so if i author a DVD from the .avi, will the quality be as good as the original camera quality (ie. is the loss only coming from printing to SVCD?)

thanks again.
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When you "capture" via firewire, you are simply COPYING the data from the tape to the hard drive. There would be NO difference between MOV or AVI as they both contain the exact same data except for the "wrapper". Your DV-AVI files are compressed but the compression is done in the camera. There is NO additional compression during the capture process.

I believe you will see a MUCH higher quality on a DVD as compared to an SVCD.
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Old August 25th, 2004, 11:55 AM   #642
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Marcia,

There is a script called Clip Logger that will allow you to output the media pool info to a delimited text file. It was originally written for importing clip log info, but I added the export function based upon a user request.

If you want to give it a try, go to the following link for more info. Clip Logger is a part of the Veggie Toolkit. If you download the toolkit, you can try it for 30 days.

http://www.peachrock.com/software/veggie-toolkit.html

If you desire any enhancements to the script, just email me at info@peachrock.com and I will see what I can do to help.

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Old August 25th, 2004, 03:18 PM   #643
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Vince,

You can still order Vegas Video Editing (3 hours of Vegas 4 instruction) at www.VegasTrainingAndTools.com.

Thanks,
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Old August 25th, 2004, 09:26 PM   #644
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Frankly...

I can match up the look of the dvx100 with the XL1S in terms
of saturation, sharpness, etc. Can I really acheive the 24p
look in Vegas with the XL1S?
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Old August 25th, 2004, 10:15 PM   #645
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Re: Frankly...

<<<-- Originally posted by Michael Best : I can match up the look of the dvx100 with the XL1S in terms
of saturation,
Any NLE will give you control over saturation.

sharpness,
No. Sure there are equivalents to the unsharpen mask filter but that doesn't really "sharpen" the image. It just boosts the contrast between edges.

The XL1s naturally offers a much softer image than the DVX100. Especially in lower light. The lower the light the softer and muddier the image becomes.




Can I really acheive the 24p
look in Vegas with the XL1S?
Depends on what you define as the 24p look? You can definitly manipulate the image and framerate to mimic the DVX's look but it will be, by no means, identical.

If your really that set on the DVX's looks why not hock your XL-1s and get a DVX?
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