Creating DCP

Pavel Houda · September 7th, 2012, 11:21 AM

It is done. You will have to do frame rate conversion first. I never saw it done without seeing judder afterward, but some LCD TVs do very good judder removal, so it can be done as well.

Jesse Blanchard · September 11th, 2012, 11:34 AM

Thanks Pavel, That's the route I took. I converted the footage to 24p and submitted it for DCP conversion. The piece is playing a big screen at LA 3DFF next week so I'll get to see first hand how well the conversion went. I'll post my feelings on the results here.

Matt Faw · September 19th, 2012, 10:38 AM

Hey Jesse, Can you post when your piece is screening? I'm L.A.-local as well. If I'm free, I'd love to come check it out.

Pavel Houda · September 19th, 2012, 12:00 PM

Jesse, I am interested as well. I just got an email that 3DFF will be screening couple of my videos on TV screens there. I am near there, so I was planning to attend at least some of it.

Jesse Blanchard · September 20th, 2012, 11:20 AM

I'm going to be sitting on the Indie 3D panel which is Friday at 2:30 and my short will be showing at either the shorts 1 or shorts 2 program. I'll also be hanging out with the Robert Rig. Love to see both of you guys there.I think I have a couple extra passes. Hit me up if you need one. I have limited internet so the forum is hard for me to get onto. However, you can email me at jesseATgoatandyeti.com See you both this weekend!

Matt Faw · September 24th, 2012, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesse Blanchard

I'm going to be sitting on the Indie 3D panel which is Friday at 2:30 and my short will be showing at either the shorts 1 or shorts 2 program. I'll also be hanging out with the Robert Rig. Love to see both of you guys there.I think I have a couple extra passes. Hit me up if you need one. I have limited internet so the forum is hard for me to get onto. However, you can email me at jesseATgoatandyeti.com See you both this weekend!

I hope the screening went well, Jesse! Sorry I wasn't able to make it. I would have liked to have heard what you had to say on Indie 3D, as well.

Jesse Blanchard · September 25th, 2012, 09:30 AM

Reporting back on the 30p to 24p DCP conversion. The image looked great but was jumpy. No one in the audience commented or seemed to notice but I could certainly see it. I'm sure there's a way to do this and be successful. I pretty much followed the process outlined by Phillip Bloom except I used the speed up tool in FCP and turned the frame blending off to preserve the whole frames. I used a different method last year (I think doing a pulldown within AE) but can't remember exactly what I did. The results were better though.

Here's the link.

How to convert Canon 5dmk2 footage from 30p to 24p | Philip Bloom

Otherwise the festival was pretty cool. I certainly enjoyed seeing lots of other 3D buffs and seeing my own work up on the big-screen is a real kick.

Pavel Houda · September 25th, 2012, 11:09 AM

Jesse,

Is the list of the 3DFF award winners published somewhere?

IMHO any conversion will degrade the the video. I will only deal with 60p from now on, Don't want to ever deal with de-interlacing. Actually, any editing will first internally deal with progressive image - fields or frames - then re-interlace the results, if needed. If I were to do primarily movie screen work, I'd work in 24p (native, none of the pull down stuff). TV will handle anything well enough, so the only decision would be the primary target - movie screen or computer screen. Movie screen is more revealing as well.

Carlo Macchiavello · September 26th, 2012, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesse Blanchard

Reporting back on the 30p to 24p DCP conversion. The image looked great but was jumpy. No one in the audience commented or seemed to notice but I could certainly see it. I'm sure there's a way to do this and be successful. I pretty much followed the process outlined by Phillip Bloom except I used the speed up tool in FCP and turned the frame blending off to preserve the whole frames. I used a different method last year (I think doing a pulldown within AE) but can't remember exactly what I did. The results were better though.

Here's the link.

How to convert Canon 5dmk2 footage from 30p to 24p | Philip Bloom

Otherwise the festival was pretty cool. I certainly enjoyed seeing lots of other 3D buffs and seeing my own work up on the big-screen is a real kick.

every convertion is bad, specially from 30 to 24, too much frame rate difference.
If you can, is better to shoot at 25 and slow down to 24, you can see on audio the lowering of tone, but nothing about visual.

September 7th, 2012, 11:21 AM	#16
Pavel Houda Major Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 352	Re: Creating DCP It is done. You will have to do frame rate conversion first. I never saw it done without seeing judder afterward, but some LCD TVs do very good judder removal, so it can be done as well.

September 11th, 2012, 11:34 AM	#17
Jesse Blanchard Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 97	Re: Creating DCP Thanks Pavel, That's the route I took. I converted the footage to 24p and submitted it for DCP conversion. The piece is playing a big screen at LA 3DFF next week so I'll get to see first hand how well the conversion went. I'll post my feelings on the results here. __________________ Start shooting 3D yourself with the Robert Rig. The most affordable and easy to use 3D camera system on the market. www.GoatAndYeti.com

September 19th, 2012, 10:38 AM	#18
Matt Faw Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 139	Re: Creating DCP Hey Jesse, Can you post when your piece is screening? I'm L.A.-local as well. If I'm free, I'd love to come check it out.

September 19th, 2012, 12:00 PM	#19
Pavel Houda Major Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 352	Re: Creating DCP Jesse, I am interested as well. I just got an email that 3DFF will be screening couple of my videos on TV screens there. I am near there, so I was planning to attend at least some of it.

September 20th, 2012, 11:20 AM	#20
Jesse Blanchard Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 97	Re: Creating DCP I'm going to be sitting on the Indie 3D panel which is Friday at 2:30 and my short will be showing at either the shorts 1 or shorts 2 program. I'll also be hanging out with the Robert Rig. Love to see both of you guys there.I think I have a couple extra passes. Hit me up if you need one. I have limited internet so the forum is hard for me to get onto. However, you can email me at jesseATgoatandyeti.com See you both this weekend! __________________ Start shooting 3D yourself with the Robert Rig. The most affordable and easy to use 3D camera system on the market. www.GoatAndYeti.com

September 25th, 2012, 09:30 AM	#22
Jesse Blanchard Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 97	Re: Creating DCP Reporting back on the 30p to 24p DCP conversion. The image looked great but was jumpy. No one in the audience commented or seemed to notice but I could certainly see it. I'm sure there's a way to do this and be successful. I pretty much followed the process outlined by Phillip Bloom except I used the speed up tool in FCP and turned the frame blending off to preserve the whole frames. I used a different method last year (I think doing a pulldown within AE) but can't remember exactly what I did. The results were better though. Here's the link. How to convert Canon 5dmk2 footage from 30p to 24p \| Philip Bloom Otherwise the festival was pretty cool. I certainly enjoyed seeing lots of other 3D buffs and seeing my own work up on the big-screen is a real kick. __________________ Start shooting 3D yourself with the Robert Rig. The most affordable and easy to use 3D camera system on the market. www.GoatAndYeti.com

September 25th, 2012, 11:09 AM	#23
Pavel Houda Major Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 352	Re: Creating DCP Jesse, Is the list of the 3DFF award winners published somewhere? IMHO any conversion will degrade the the video. I will only deal with 60p from now on, Don't want to ever deal with de-interlacing. Actually, any editing will first internally deal with progressive image - fields or frames - then re-interlace the results, if needed. If I were to do primarily movie screen work, I'd work in 24p (native, none of the pull down stuff). TV will handle anything well enough, so the only decision would be the primary target - movie screen or computer screen. Movie screen is more revealing as well.