3D HDMI 1.4a to twin SDI converter

David M. Cole · December 8th, 2012, 10:18 AM

The TS is 60i. The captured content is 24P. The captured L and R files are full resolution, 24P files. A TV MIGHT automatically switch to side-side mode and expand the output from the camera, but the Ultrastudio will not.

Wolfgang Schmid · December 9th, 2012, 05:19 AM

Maybe the import question for Ultrastudio 3D is, if the output from hdmi has bypassed the compression from the hardware-encoder in the Z10K or not. Do you know what is true for the Z10K?

Beside that the Z10K is a 8bit camera with 4:2:0 - so to shoot uncompressed in 10bit and up to 4:4:4 is nice, but the bottleneck will be the Z10K signalprocessing I think. But I agree that it could make sense to capture at least in 4:2:2 and 8 bit.

David M. Cole · December 9th, 2012, 02:26 PM

I don't think the camera would encode and then decode the signal to send to the display (EVF, LCD or HDMI). That would be atypical design. The question is - what DOES it do to the signal between reading it off the sensor and outputting to HDMI? I can say that the HDMI output is not especially beautiful, on first look.

Hopefully, I can get some testing done.

By the way, I think the camera does some device detection on the HDMI port. If it senses an HDMI1.4a device, it outputs the 24P in 60i PsF stream. If it detects a 1.3 device, it seems to fall back to 60i SxS (no matter how the camera is configured to shoot).

Neil Richards · December 9th, 2012, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David M. Cole

By the way, I think the camera does some device detection on the HDMI port. If it senses an HDMI1.4a device, it outputs the 24P in 60i PsF stream. If it detects a 1.3 device, it seems to fall back to 60i SxS (no matter how the camera is configured to shoot).

Yes it does - I mentioned this a few posts back! :)

Wolfgang Schmid · December 9th, 2012, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David M. Cole

I don't think the camera would encode and then decode the signal to send to the display (EVF, LCD or HDMI). That would be atypical design. The question is - what DOES it do to the signal between reading it off the sensor and outputting to HDMI? I can say that the HDMI output is not especially beautiful, on first look.

Well, it would be great to know that, but I think it is hard to answer without internal Panasonci know-how. But it could be a deal-breaker.

Anmol Mishra · September 5th, 2013, 08:22 PM

Would this work for the Sony HDR-D10, the JVC GS-TD1 ?

Anmol Mishra · November 9th, 2013, 10:59 PM

Can anyone please confirm if the HDMI 1.4a output can be split to the two SDI channels from the Ultrastudio 3d and then captured to dual Hyperdeck shuttle ?

December 8th, 2012, 10:18 AM	#16
David M. Cole Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 166	Re: 3D HDMI 1.4a to twin SDI converter The TS is 60i. The captured content is 24P. The captured L and R files are full resolution, 24P files. A TV MIGHT automatically switch to side-side mode and expand the output from the camera, but the Ultrastudio will not.

December 9th, 2012, 05:19 AM	#17
Wolfgang Schmid Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vienna/Austria Posts: 152	Re: 3D HDMI 1.4a to twin SDI converter Maybe the import question for Ultrastudio 3D is, if the output from hdmi has bypassed the compression from the hardware-encoder in the Z10K or not. Do you know what is true for the Z10K? Beside that the Z10K is a 8bit camera with 4:2:0 - so to shoot uncompressed in 10bit and up to 4:4:4 is nice, but the bottleneck will be the Z10K signalprocessing I think. But I agree that it could make sense to capture at least in 4:2:2 and 8 bit. __________________ Kind regards, Wolfgang http://videotreffpunkt.com http://www.vegasvideo.de/forum

December 9th, 2012, 02:26 PM	#18
David M. Cole Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 166	Re: 3D HDMI 1.4a to twin SDI converter I don't think the camera would encode and then decode the signal to send to the display (EVF, LCD or HDMI). That would be atypical design. The question is - what DOES it do to the signal between reading it off the sensor and outputting to HDMI? I can say that the HDMI output is not especially beautiful, on first look. Hopefully, I can get some testing done. By the way, I think the camera does some device detection on the HDMI port. If it senses an HDMI1.4a device, it outputs the 24P in 60i PsF stream. If it detects a 1.3 device, it seems to fall back to 60i SxS (no matter how the camera is configured to shoot).

September 5th, 2013, 08:22 PM	#21
Anmol Mishra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 401	Re: 3D HDMI 1.4a to twin SDI converter Would this work for the Sony HDR-D10, the JVC GS-TD1 ? __________________ mishra.tv Productions A Sydney-based group for dance movement-based video and film productions.

November 9th, 2013, 10:59 PM	#22
Anmol Mishra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 401	Re: 3D HDMI 1.4a to twin SDI converter Can anyone please confirm if the HDMI 1.4a output can be split to the two SDI channels from the Ultrastudio 3d and then captured to dual Hyperdeck shuttle ? __________________ mishra.tv Productions A Sydney-based group for dance movement-based video and film productions.