CS4 - 4.0.1 update - "Edit in Audition" is back! at DVinfo.net

Graham Hickling · November 21st, 2008, 07:40 PM

Very good news - tho' admittedly only for those on a PC.

(It was removed from CS3 because it couldn't be offered cross-platform .... a decision which personally I thought really sucked).

Harm Millaard · November 21st, 2008, 08:32 PM

About time. It only took them two years to repair what was not broken in the first place.

Floris van Eck · November 22nd, 2008, 04:12 AM

Only no audition for Mac, and Sounbooth is not very useful.

But good that's back for Windows users.

Jon Shohet · November 22nd, 2008, 11:10 AM

I'll be satisfied when Audition is back, not when "Edit in Audition" is back. A very insulting desicion, IMO, by Adobe, to replace it in CS3/CS4 with the watered-down, "Audition-for-dummies" Soundbooth. Why did they acquire one of the best audio editing apps on the market in the first place, if they're not going to offer it properly to their customers?

Brian Brown · November 22nd, 2008, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Shohet

I'll be satisfied when Audition is back, not when "Edit in Audition" is back. A very insulting desicion, IMO, by Adobe, to replace it in CS3/CS4 with the watered-down, "Audition-for-dummies" Soundbooth. Why did they acquire one of the best audio editing apps on the market in the first place, if they're not going to offer it properly to their customers?

Audition is very much back, it's just not free with the Suite anymore. For a mere $99, Suite owners can "upgrade" to get the app. admittedly we should have gotten in the first place, as you suggest.

My only guess is that some video folks must have complained to Adobe that Audition was too complicated. What the real issues were, IMHO, is that Audition was sooo un-Adobe-like... just a dolled-up Cool Edit Pro with a foreign interface and toolset compared to other historic Adobe apps. Since I'm new to it, I have the same complaints about Flash... still sooo Macromedia-like, not Adobe. Every time Adobe acquires a product or industry, it takes them several versions to get the "look and feel" of the Adobe culture into it I guess. Plus, they run the risk of alienating the former users of the title. Rock and a hard place, I guess.

Soundbooth is plenty Adobe-like... it just kinda sucks compared to Audition. I just wish they had given me the choice... or thrown them both into the Suite. For 99 bucks, though, it's definitely worth getting Audition 3... and sending Adobe corporate a nice bit of stink-mail about it. They will eventually listen if enough of us complain.

My $0.02,
Brian Brown
BrownCow Productions

Jon Shohet · November 22nd, 2008, 08:23 PM

By back, I meant back in CS. The whole point of a production suite is to have a complete....well, production suite at your disposal.

I agree that Audition is not the most intuitive software for Adobe users, but at least it's a capable editor, and don't forget until this update there was no OMF support to pass a project along to Protools/Cubase, so this was extremely crippling in CS3.

If Adobe thinks some editors need a quick and simple solution for audio sweetening, they should incorporate something like Soundbooth as a feature into PP or Audition, not cripple the production suite by making Audition a standalone upgrade.

just my 2 cents...
cheers,
Jon.

Jiri Fiala · November 22nd, 2008, 11:15 PM

I think Audition integration the way it is now is kind of useless anyway, unless it can import whole sequence for advanced mixing. Clip-based audio editing can be done in freeware Audacity too.

Graham Hickling · November 23rd, 2008, 12:30 AM

Dude - you need to buy Nuendo, not Premiere, if that's what you need.

Jiri Fiala · November 23rd, 2008, 04:26 AM

My gripe is not about Premiere. Premiere leads the pack when it comes to audio editing (except Vegas). My gripe is that Adobe has two multitrack editors and not one of them can be put to appropriate use.

November 21st, 2008, 07:40 PM	#1
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	CS4 - 4.0.1 update - "Edit in Audition" is back! Very good news - tho' admittedly only for those on a PC. (It was removed from CS3 because it couldn't be offered cross-platform .... a decision which personally I thought really sucked). Last edited by Graham Hickling; November 22nd, 2008 at 05:07 AM.

November 21st, 2008, 08:32 PM	#2
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	About time. It only took them two years to repair what was not broken in the first place.

November 22nd, 2008, 04:12 AM	#3
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	Only no audition for Mac, and Sounbooth is not very useful. But good that's back for Windows users.

November 22nd, 2008, 11:10 AM	#4
Jon Shohet Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 277	I'll be satisfied when Audition is back, not when "Edit in Audition" is back. A very insulting desicion, IMO, by Adobe, to replace it in CS3/CS4 with the watered-down, "Audition-for-dummies" Soundbooth. Why did they acquire one of the best audio editing apps on the market in the first place, if they're not going to offer it properly to their customers?

November 22nd, 2008, 08:23 PM	#6
Jon Shohet Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 277	By back, I meant back in CS. The whole point of a production suite is to have a complete....well, production suite at your disposal. I agree that Audition is not the most intuitive software for Adobe users, but at least it's a capable editor, and don't forget until this update there was no OMF support to pass a project along to Protools/Cubase, so this was extremely crippling in CS3. If Adobe thinks some editors need a quick and simple solution for audio sweetening, they should incorporate something like Soundbooth as a feature into PP or Audition, not cripple the production suite by making Audition a standalone upgrade. just my 2 cents... cheers, Jon.

November 22nd, 2008, 11:15 PM	#7
Jiri Fiala Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brno Czech Republic Posts: 453	I think Audition integration the way it is now is kind of useless anyway, unless it can import whole sequence for advanced mixing. Clip-based audio editing can be done in freeware Audacity too.

November 23rd, 2008, 12:30 AM	#8
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Dude - you need to buy Nuendo, not Premiere, if that's what you need.

November 23rd, 2008, 04:26 AM	#9
Jiri Fiala Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brno Czech Republic Posts: 453	My gripe is not about Premiere. Premiere leads the pack when it comes to audio editing (except Vegas). My gripe is that Adobe has two multitrack editors and not one of them can be put to appropriate use.