Preview to external monitor stops when applying effect in CS4? at DVinfo.net

Marty Hudzik · February 18th, 2009, 07:47 PM

Okay, so I have been doing this since Premiere Pro 1.5 succesfully. I have the prject setup to preview on my HDTV via the component out of my video card. I set this up in playback settings and it works flawlessly....until CS4. I have it setup properly and indeed scrubbing the timeline shows the preview perfectly on my HDTV....however, add any effect to the clip and it stops. I added a simple color correction and the preview is gone...actually, the preview turns black and when I press spacebar all I see is the very first frame of the avi that is on the timeline. The window on the PC monitor shows the clips plus effects, just the secondary preview fails.

I am hoping that I am missing something.....I did have to set my preview options based on the sequence and not by the project, so I guess I am hoping there is some option to show timeline plus effects that I am not seeing here. I have the HDTV primarily to color correct, and since I Cannot see the output after applying color correction...it is well.....useless.

Anyone else experiencing this, or is this a glitch on my system?

Thanks.

Pete Bauer · February 18th, 2009, 08:55 PM

Marty, it is tough for anyone to help with these kind of questions without knowing the particulars of your system, hardware by brand and model as well as software including version.

Marty Hudzik · February 18th, 2009, 09:22 PM

Pete, I am asking a general question if this behavior is new to CS4 versus older versions. I will post my system settings just to be helpful though. It is becoming more clear, that on my system with CS4, Premiere will not output anything from the timeline to a second monitor unless it is rendered, or, if the clip didn't need rendered at all. Dropping color bars into a brand new HDV preset get's me color bars in the samll program monitor and nothing on the second monitor. Build a preview and it magically re-appears. Change anything with that clip and it is gone again. This is not how CS3, PPRO2 or 1.5 behaved. Can anyone verify this is normal? I have the full CS3 suite running like a rock on my system with no real issues. I keep hoping to find a radio button that would turn this feature back on or something.

Specs: CS4 Production Suite and CS3 Production Suite
Quad Core Q6600
4GB Ram
Nvidia 7950 with 512mb video RAM
2TB Raided sata drives
SOund Blaster Audigy 2Zs card

As I said, this system is stable as can be with CS3. I tried the most simple project in CS4 and it is behaving badly....not crashing but not displaying things the way it should.

In aother example I dropped a PPRO title and a jpg next to each other on a brand new timeline. The title wouldn't show up at all then the jpg would only appear in the prject window....no preview on second monitor. I changed the quiality setting from auto to high qulaity, and then the title still would not appear but instead I got a negative version of the jpg appearing in it's place. So playing this 10 second clip showed 5 seconds of the jpg in negative and then 5 seconds of the jpg normal.....it didn;t even show the title.

Man...I was hoping that all this bad press CS4 has been getting was wrong. Since my system has been so reliable with CS3 I though I'd be one of the luck ones. 3 hours into my first super simple DV project on CS4 and I haven't accomplished anything except post on message boards why it isn't working.

Peace.

Victor Wilcox · February 19th, 2009, 01:00 PM

Marty, did you render effects in the work area? I'm not sure if it should matter, but that's the only thing I can think of. Good luck.

February 18th, 2009, 07:47 PM	#1
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	Preview to external monitor stops when applying effect in CS4? Okay, so I have been doing this since Premiere Pro 1.5 succesfully. I have the prject setup to preview on my HDTV via the component out of my video card. I set this up in playback settings and it works flawlessly....until CS4. I have it setup properly and indeed scrubbing the timeline shows the preview perfectly on my HDTV....however, add any effect to the clip and it stops. I added a simple color correction and the preview is gone...actually, the preview turns black and when I press spacebar all I see is the very first frame of the avi that is on the timeline. The window on the PC monitor shows the clips plus effects, just the secondary preview fails. I am hoping that I am missing something.....I did have to set my preview options based on the sequence and not by the project, so I guess I am hoping there is some option to show timeline plus effects that I am not seeing here. I have the HDTV primarily to color correct, and since I Cannot see the output after applying color correction...it is well.....useless. Anyone else experiencing this, or is this a glitch on my system? Thanks.

February 18th, 2009, 08:55 PM	#2
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Marty, it is tough for anyone to help with these kind of questions without knowing the particulars of your system, hardware by brand and model as well as software including version. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

February 19th, 2009, 01:00 PM	#4
Victor Wilcox Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Iron Horse Guest Ranch, Waller County, TX Posts: 340	Marty, did you render effects in the work area? I'm not sure if it should matter, but that's the only thing I can think of. Good luck. __________________ Vic Wilcox, http://wilcoxvideoproductions.com/Default.aspx Sony FDR-AX100, DJI Phantom 4 Pro, GoPro Hero 8 Blk, Vegas Pro 15, DaVinci Resolve 18

February 18th, 2009, 09:22 PM	#3
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	Pete, I am asking a general question if this behavior is new to CS4 versus older versions. I will post my system settings just to be helpful though. It is becoming more clear, that on my system with CS4, Premiere will not output anything from the timeline to a second monitor unless it is rendered, or, if the clip didn't need rendered at all. Dropping color bars into a brand new HDV preset get's me color bars in the samll program monitor and nothing on the second monitor. Build a preview and it magically re-appears. Change anything with that clip and it is gone again. This is not how CS3, PPRO2 or 1.5 behaved. Can anyone verify this is normal? I have the full CS3 suite running like a rock on my system with no real issues. I keep hoping to find a radio button that would turn this feature back on or something. Specs: CS4 Production Suite and CS3 Production Suite Quad Core Q6600 4GB Ram Nvidia 7950 with 512mb video RAM 2TB Raided sata drives SOund Blaster Audigy 2Zs card As I said, this system is stable as can be with CS3. I tried the most simple project in CS4 and it is behaving badly....not crashing but not displaying things the way it should. In aother example I dropped a PPRO title and a jpg next to each other on a brand new timeline. The title wouldn't show up at all then the jpg would only appear in the prject window....no preview on second monitor. I changed the quiality setting from auto to high qulaity, and then the title still would not appear but instead I got a negative version of the jpg appearing in it's place. So playing this 10 second clip showed 5 seconds of the jpg in negative and then 5 seconds of the jpg normal.....it didn;t even show the title. Man...I was hoping that all this bad press CS4 has been getting was wrong. Since my system has been so reliable with CS3 I though I'd be one of the luck ones. 3 hours into my first super simple DV project on CS4 and I haven't accomplished anything except post on message boards why it isn't working. Peace.