CS3: Reference Monitor not playing at DVinfo.net

Mike Rinkunas · March 5th, 2009, 08:53 AM

Hey everyone...

I'm trying to use the Reference Monitor to check my levels, and it is not playing back with the program monitor. I do have the 2 monitors "gang"-ed and when I stop playback on the program monitor, the reference monitor jumps to that frame. But no live playback...

What am i missing here?
~Mike

Adam Gold · March 5th, 2009, 11:59 AM

That's what mine does too. I just assumed it was supposed to be that way and no live playback was possible (or even necessary).

Tripp Woelfel · March 5th, 2009, 09:24 PM

I'm pretty sure that's the way it works. Mine only updates once playback stops. Kinda silly, but it might take more processing power than most computers have to playback and update the scopes at the same time.

Adam Gold · March 5th, 2009, 09:28 PM

I just assumed color-correcting was not like riding audio levels in a mixer... that you need to make your corrections at a fixed point in time that apply to the whole scene, making any needed further adjustments via keyframe.

You can tell I don't do a lot of color correction...

Tripp Woelfel · March 5th, 2009, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Gold

I just assumed color-correcting was not like riding audio levels in a mixer... that you need to make your corrections at a fixed point in time that apply to the whole scene, making any needed further adjustments via keyframe.

True. That's the way I do it, and I do a lot of it.

DISCLAIMER: Athough I think I know what I'm doing, I'm self-taught and there's no guarantee that my workflow bares any resemblance to that those who actually do know what they're doing.

Martin Catt · March 5th, 2009, 09:48 PM

Same behavior with me. It would be nice to watch levels alongside the actual video, but no go.

Martin

Peter Manojlovic · March 6th, 2009, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Rinkunas

Hey everyone...

I'm trying to use the Reference Monitor .. But no live playback...

What am i missing here?
~Mike

What you're missing........Is a REAL Vectorscope....

There's a reason why colorists, or post houses, pay huge wads of cash for realtime hardware systems...
RGB parade on Premiere is great for people like me who only need approximation, and reference...

Jiri Fiala · March 6th, 2009, 03:57 AM

That`t true, but Vegas can do it, FCP can do it, Avid can do it and Premiere can`t.

Tripp Woelfel · March 6th, 2009, 07:17 PM

Here's a news blast for you all. You can actually get a near real time view of the the V-scope and parade display. Click in the reference monitor window and press the spacebar. Only problem is that the video doesn't play, just the scope and parade.

I don't know if the reference was ganged to program. I didn't check and I'm not sure I remember how.

Gerald Webb · August 29th, 2011, 02:14 AM

Hi all, found this old thread while Googling for an answer.
Has there been any update to Premiere in the latest version to allow you to watch RGB waveforms AND video at the same time?

Gerald Webb · August 29th, 2011, 03:53 PM

Ok then,
Anyone know of a plug in to give you live scopes?

Bart Walczak · August 30th, 2011, 07:38 AM

The only "plugin" I know is BlackMagic Ultrascope... hardly a viable solution for tight budgets.

Live scopes are on my wishlist for Adobe. There is a workaround that involves essentially ganging source and program monitor, but you are losing possibility to do any effect manipulations on program monitor then, and I found it tedious to say the least.

March 5th, 2009, 08:53 AM	#1
Mike Rinkunas Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 134	CS3: Reference Monitor not playing Hey everyone... I'm trying to use the Reference Monitor to check my levels, and it is not playing back with the program monitor. I do have the 2 monitors "gang"-ed and when I stop playback on the program monitor, the reference monitor jumps to that frame. But no live playback... What am i missing here? ~Mike

March 5th, 2009, 09:48 PM	#6
Martin Catt Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Colony TX Posts: 327	Same behavior with me. It would be nice to watch levels alongside the actual video, but no go. Martin __________________ Canon XF300, Canon 5DMkII, Canon XL2, Rolls MX422 mixer, Zoom H4N, AT899 lavs, AT2020's, Azden SGM 1X shotgun, Manfrotto 501 head on 351 tripod

August 29th, 2011, 02:14 AM	#10
Gerald Webb Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Coast Australia Posts: 1,046	Re: CS3: Reference Monitor not playing Hi all, found this old thread while Googling for an answer. Has there been any update to Premiere in the latest version to allow you to watch RGB waveforms AND video at the same time? __________________ http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo

August 29th, 2011, 03:53 PM	#11
Gerald Webb Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Coast Australia Posts: 1,046	Re: CS3: Reference Monitor not playing Ok then, Anyone know of a plug in to give you live scopes? __________________ http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo

August 30th, 2011, 07:38 AM	#12
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	Re: CS3: Reference Monitor not playing The only "plugin" I know is BlackMagic Ultrascope... hardly a viable solution for tight budgets. Live scopes are on my wishlist for Adobe. There is a workaround that involves essentially ganging source and program monitor, but you are losing possibility to do any effect manipulations on program monitor then, and I found it tedious to say the least. __________________ Creative Impatience - The Solace of Simple Solutions. A few useful plugins for Adobe users, and my remarks on the tools and the craft in general.

March 5th, 2009, 11:59 AM	#2
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	That's what mine does too. I just assumed it was supposed to be that way and no live playback was possible (or even necessary).

March 5th, 2009, 09:24 PM	#3
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	I'm pretty sure that's the way it works. Mine only updates once playback stops. Kinda silly, but it might take more processing power than most computers have to playback and update the scopes at the same time.

March 5th, 2009, 09:28 PM	#4
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	I just assumed color-correcting was not like riding audio levels in a mixer... that you need to make your corrections at a fixed point in time that apply to the whole scene, making any needed further adjustments via keyframe. You can tell I don't do a lot of color correction...

March 6th, 2009, 03:57 AM	#8
Jiri Fiala Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brno Czech Republic Posts: 453	That`t true, but Vegas can do it, FCP can do it, Avid can do it and Premiere can`t.

March 6th, 2009, 07:17 PM	#9
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	Here's a news blast for you all. You can actually get a near real time view of the the V-scope and parade display. Click in the reference monitor window and press the spacebar. Only problem is that the video doesn't play, just the scope and parade. I don't know if the reference was ganged to program. I didn't check and I'm not sure I remember how.