What filter can I use for a B&W shot to look 1950 ish? at DVinfo.net
DV Info Net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Cross-Platform Post Production Solutions > Adobe Creative Suite

Adobe Creative Suite
All about the world of Adobe Premiere and its associated plug-ins.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old September 28th, 2010, 10:44 AM   #1
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lansing, Michigan
Posts: 185
What filter can I use for a B&W shot to look 1950 ish?

Good afternoon!
I have CS5. I would like to take a clip, turn it to Black and White and add a filter to make it look a little bit older, like it was shot back in the 50's. Can anyone tell me what effect or filter to use in Premiere or After Effects? I have some experience with both.

Thank you,
Art
Art White is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 28th, 2010, 07:08 PM   #2
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Brisbane Australia
Posts: 114
Hi Art. In AE or Premiere have a try with Tint, Noise (you have to set amount) and Shadow/Highlights. There's also Dust & Scratches (and maybe even create a vignette) if you want to go the whole hog. Hope that helps.
Gregory Gesch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 28th, 2010, 07:15 PM   #3
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Woodinville, WA USA
Posts: 3,467
I checked into Dust & Scratches... it's actually designed to remove them, not add them in....
__________________
"It can only be attributable to human error... This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error."
Adam Gold is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 28th, 2010, 07:36 PM   #4
Major Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 427
Either use the image filters as mentioned above or invest in Magic Bullet or Boris Continuum
Rob Morse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 28th, 2010, 07:56 PM   #5
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Brisbane Australia
Posts: 114
Hi Adam, yes you are absolutely right it is designed to remove them but if you add them after the other effects it brings a bit of a soft bloom to the image.That's my story anyway:-)
Gregory Gesch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 28th, 2010, 08:03 PM   #6
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Woodinville, WA USA
Posts: 3,467
Yeah, that makes sense.

But that raises an interesting question. I assumed that Art wants it to look old and degraded, but actually many of the older B&W films (especially from the 30s and 40s) were shot on Nitrate stock, which gave this incredible crisp, clear, deep, sharp image. Not degraded or soft at all. So that would require exactly the opposite treatment of what I was first thinking of.
__________________
"It can only be attributable to human error... This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error."
Adam Gold is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 29th, 2010, 12:53 PM   #7
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lansing, Michigan
Posts: 185
All good things to try. I wanted to practice but I didn't know where to start and what order. I have a scene where employees of a company are drab, malcontent and wearing outdated clothes. By the end, they are happy, productive and modern, like a before and after. These ideas will help visually show the difference, hopefully in a humorous way. I'll play around with these. Thanks for helping!

Art
Art White is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 29th, 2010, 10:25 PM   #8
Trustee
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 1,389
Have used Natress plugins for a few years now and there are a lot of great film looks. I find most of them too subtle in a comedic setting but there are a few that are dead on for 8mm film degradation looks. Might fit the bill but not sure if they are available for Adobe as I use them in FCP.
Agree that well-shot 16mm and larger film from the 50's looks fantastic when it's been cared for and properly transferred.
__________________
The older I get, the better I was!
Robert Turchick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 30th, 2010, 12:28 PM   #9
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Monument, CO
Posts: 109
+1 on Magic Bullet Looks for this. You can add and vary the degree of dust, scratches, spots, gate weave and grain. It can look very close to vintage if you spend some time with it. The trick is not to over do any of these if you want it to look authentic. Along with that though you may wish to play with exposure and filters to emulate the film stock qualities of the day. There was a variety of quality just as is there is today but you can keep it razor sharp like a good film noir crime drama or soften it up and blow out the highlights for something that looks a little more low budget from the era. Lots of fun whatever you choose to do......
If you don't have a lot of this vintage work filed away in your head already just watch a lot and find looks that appeal to you.
Steve Nelson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 1st, 2010, 08:16 AM   #10
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lansing, Michigan
Posts: 185
Ok.
Robert, I quickly looked but I don't think Natress works with Adobe. Thanks anyway. Steve, at my age, everything stored away in my head is vintage! Looks like it's working with a little bit of noise in Premiere.
Art White is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 1st, 2010, 10:10 AM   #11
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Monument, CO
Posts: 109
LOL, you're not alone there Art!
Steve Nelson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 3rd, 2010, 12:55 AM   #12
Trustee
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
Posts: 1,832
Have a look here: AnyFX Effects & Transitions for Premiere and Vegas | Pixelan Software

Any FX has a number of presets for different film stock, like various photographic film rolls from Agfa, Fuji and Kodak that allow an easy way to simulate old B&W photos. For $ 29 it is peanuts.
Harm Millaard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 5th, 2010, 02:49 PM   #13
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lansing, Michigan
Posts: 185
Not bad! and the examples they give are nice too.
Art
Art White is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 5th, 2010, 07:24 PM   #14
Major Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Canyon Country, CA
Posts: 445
I hasn't been mentioned yet but Cineform's First Light has some really nice black and white and old film effects. This would be my choice for a project like this.
Charles W. Hull is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY USA

Scan Computers Int. Ltd.
+44 0871-472-4747
Bolton, Lancashire UK


DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Cross-Platform Post Production Solutions > Adobe Creative Suite

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:18 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2024 The Digital Video Information Network