CS4 Captured-Audio locked on Tracks 3&4 ?? at DVinfo.net

Tom Blizzard · December 15th, 2010, 09:44 AM

I sure can't figure this one out. I just captured a 7 minute clip. Tried capturing it with two different capturing programs and both give the same result. When I pull it down to the timeline, the single stereo audio track is "locked" on the timeline into audio tracks 3 and 4. Strange.

It won't budge.... Video is where it should be at Track 1, I can not move the audio up to track one.

Suggestions?

Adam Gold · December 15th, 2010, 11:56 AM

This probably isn't it, but when this type of thing has happened to me, it's because the tracks where I want the audio to go (and where it refuses to go) are the wrong format. When I go into preferences and change the audio track format everything works, but only on projects created after I made the change.

So if you have a stereo track it won't drop into a timeline audio track designated as 5.1 or anything else.

Sounds like this probably isn't your issue but worth checking.

Also, try right clicking on the audio tracks in the timeline and selecting "Unlink." Sometimes that lets you move stuff around.

Tom Blizzard · December 15th, 2010, 12:59 PM

Thanks Adam,
I think you might be right and on to something...... I noticed in the "Effect Controls" window, it shows
Audio Effects 1 for Clip 01 which ended up in Audio track 4 on the timeline, plus it shows Audio effects 2 for the same Clip 1 which ended up as Audio 5 on the timeline. I've never had the same clip end up on two audio tacks....
Guess I've got to work with this........

Tom Blizzard · December 15th, 2010, 01:08 PM

Crazy....... at the top of the Project panel it shows 48000 HZ - 16-bit - 2 Mono.

Maybe the 2 Mono means there ARE 2 mono tracks..... Ok. I unlinked the tracks in the timeline and cleared Audio track 5 and THEN I was able pull up audio track 4 into the timeline Audio 1 position. Success...........

Why in the world did they get locked into tracks 4 and 5 in the first place ?????

Wesley Cardone · December 15th, 2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Blizzard

Why in the world did they get locked into tracks 4 and 5 in the first place ?????

I wish I knew. This has plagued me for a long time. It looks like, though, that the "unlink" option is the solution.

Kevin Monahan · December 15th, 2010, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Blizzard

Why in the world did they get locked into tracks 4 and 5 in the first place ?????

Perhaps this video will shed some light.

Adam Gold · December 15th, 2010, 03:35 PM

Wow. What a great tutorial. Thanks, Kevin.

Tom Blizzard · December 15th, 2010, 04:05 PM

Wow...... but wait.......... How did he get all the audio tracks separate in his Project Panel??

Mine simply shows : Sequence 01 and under that it shows: Untitled Clip 01.avi

There are no audio tracks shown. So, when I right click it does not show: Modify.

Shows nothing like the tutorial..... How do I get the audio parts to come up in the Project Panel?

Adam Gold · December 15th, 2010, 05:24 PM

Might be because you are on CS4. On CS5 it shows as indicated. But as he noted, you can't change anything if the clip is already on the timeline -- the audio options are greyed out. They re-appear if you delete the clip from the timeline and right-click it in the project panel bin.

Tom Blizzard · December 17th, 2010, 08:12 AM

Thanks Adam,
I did delete the clip from the timeline. Hummmmmmm I guess it's because it is an .avi file or maybe, like you say, I'm using CS4.
Think I'll go back and recapture the DV clip from my cam and try it..........

Tom Blizzard · December 17th, 2010, 06:49 PM

Yep, Adam you are right. It is different for CS4. This does work... Great.

Here tis:
Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 * Map audio channels

Nigel Eaton-Gray · October 22nd, 2011, 09:45 AM

Can I reopen this old subject, A doddery old pensioner following a hobby with Premiere CS5 and none of the answers above seem to hit the problem exactly. I was editing last night, adding clips to the timeline within a sequence, clip and audio going happily into tracks one for both video and audio with 3 video and 3 audio tracks. Then for no reason that I know, clips stopped going into audio 1, an extra 3 tracks were added to the audio and while video still went into video 1, audio would now only go into audio 4 (ie the first of the added tracks). I can move the audio to new tracks 4,5 & 6, but no way will it move up into the original tracks 1,2 & 3. I have tried deleting clips and replacing them on the timeline, but the problem seems there to stay.

I assume I have unwittingly clicked something, but what. All clips and timeline tracks are set as stereo, and all the clips I have been using were captured at the same with the same settings. Even clips that earlier went happily into audio 1, if placed on the timeline again, they will only go into track 4. Incidently, audio 4 now has "A1" at left hand side although audio 1 is the targeted (highlighted) track.

Silly, and easy enough to work around and so it is not the "end of the world" but it's driving me nuts!!!!!

Thanks to any expert that can help, Nigel

Nigel Eaton-Gray · October 24th, 2011, 06:41 AM

OOOPs. Couldn't open the reference to the video the other day, my browser just gave "Page not available". However, I have seen it now and it answers most of the questions. All I have to do now is work out why the camera has captured some clips in mono and some in stereo.........or why premiere has captured some clips in a batch capture in mono and some in stereo........All show as stereo when I look at their properties in Premiere!! I think this afternoon will be spend recapturing.........................Nigel

Bart Walczak · October 24th, 2011, 09:11 AM

Perhaps clicking on "modify->audio channels" or clip->audio->source channel mapping will allow you to change the settings without recapture, unless you have already used these clips in the timeline?

December 15th, 2010, 09:44 AM	#1
Tom Blizzard Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: West Rosemary Beach, Florida Posts: 199	CS4 Captured-Audio locked on Tracks 3&4 ?? I sure can't figure this one out. I just captured a 7 minute clip. Tried capturing it with two different capturing programs and both give the same result. When I pull it down to the timeline, the single stereo audio track is "locked" on the timeline into audio tracks 3 and 4. Strange. It won't budge.... Video is where it should be at Track 1, I can not move the audio up to track one. Suggestions?

December 15th, 2010, 11:56 AM	#2
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	This probably isn't it, but when this type of thing has happened to me, it's because the tracks where I want the audio to go (and where it refuses to go) are the wrong format. When I go into preferences and change the audio track format everything works, but only on projects created after I made the change. So if you have a stereo track it won't drop into a timeline audio track designated as 5.1 or anything else. Sounds like this probably isn't your issue but worth checking. Also, try right clicking on the audio tracks in the timeline and selecting "Unlink." Sometimes that lets you move stuff around. __________________ "It can only be attributable to human error... This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error."

December 15th, 2010, 03:35 PM	#7
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	Wow. What a great tutorial. Thanks, Kevin. __________________ "It can only be attributable to human error... This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error."

December 15th, 2010, 05:24 PM	#9
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	Might be because you are on CS4. On CS5 it shows as indicated. But as he noted, you can't change anything if the clip is already on the timeline -- the audio options are greyed out. They re-appear if you delete the clip from the timeline and right-click it in the project panel bin. __________________ "It can only be attributable to human error... This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error."

October 22nd, 2011, 09:45 AM	#12
Nigel Eaton-Gray New Boot Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Okehampton UK Posts: 6	Re: CS4 Captured-Audio locked on Tracks 3&4 ?? Can I reopen this old subject, A doddery old pensioner following a hobby with Premiere CS5 and none of the answers above seem to hit the problem exactly. I was editing last night, adding clips to the timeline within a sequence, clip and audio going happily into tracks one for both video and audio with 3 video and 3 audio tracks. Then for no reason that I know, clips stopped going into audio 1, an extra 3 tracks were added to the audio and while video still went into video 1, audio would now only go into audio 4 (ie the first of the added tracks). I can move the audio to new tracks 4,5 & 6, but no way will it move up into the original tracks 1,2 & 3. I have tried deleting clips and replacing them on the timeline, but the problem seems there to stay. I assume I have unwittingly clicked something, but what. All clips and timeline tracks are set as stereo, and all the clips I have been using were captured at the same with the same settings. Even clips that earlier went happily into audio 1, if placed on the timeline again, they will only go into track 4. Incidently, audio 4 now has "A1" at left hand side although audio 1 is the targeted (highlighted) track. Silly, and easy enough to work around and so it is not the "end of the world" but it's driving me nuts!!!!! Thanks to any expert that can help, Nigel

December 15th, 2010, 12:59 PM	#3
Tom Blizzard Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: West Rosemary Beach, Florida Posts: 199	Thanks Adam, I think you might be right and on to something...... I noticed in the "Effect Controls" window, it shows Audio Effects 1 for Clip 01 which ended up in Audio track 4 on the timeline, plus it shows Audio effects 2 for the same Clip 1 which ended up as Audio 5 on the timeline. I've never had the same clip end up on two audio tacks.... Guess I've got to work with this........

December 15th, 2010, 01:08 PM	#4
Tom Blizzard Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: West Rosemary Beach, Florida Posts: 199	Crazy....... at the top of the Project panel it shows 48000 HZ - 16-bit - 2 Mono. Maybe the 2 Mono means there ARE 2 mono tracks..... Ok. I unlinked the tracks in the timeline and cleared Audio track 5 and THEN I was able pull up audio track 4 into the timeline Audio 1 position. Success........... Why in the world did they get locked into tracks 4 and 5 in the first place ?????

December 15th, 2010, 04:05 PM	#8
Tom Blizzard Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: West Rosemary Beach, Florida Posts: 199	Wow...... but wait.......... How did he get all the audio tracks separate in his Project Panel?? Mine simply shows : Sequence 01 and under that it shows: Untitled Clip 01.avi There are no audio tracks shown. So, when I right click it does not show: Modify. Shows nothing like the tutorial..... How do I get the audio parts to come up in the Project Panel?

December 17th, 2010, 08:12 AM	#10
Tom Blizzard Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: West Rosemary Beach, Florida Posts: 199	Thanks Adam, I did delete the clip from the timeline. Hummmmmmm I guess it's because it is an .avi file or maybe, like you say, I'm using CS4. Think I'll go back and recapture the DV clip from my cam and try it..........

December 17th, 2010, 06:49 PM	#11
Tom Blizzard Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: West Rosemary Beach, Florida Posts: 199	Yep, Adam you are right. It is different for CS4. This does work... Great. Here tis: Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 * Map audio channels

October 24th, 2011, 06:41 AM	#13
Nigel Eaton-Gray New Boot Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Okehampton UK Posts: 6	Re: CS4 Captured-Audio locked on Tracks 3&4 ?? OOOPs. Couldn't open the reference to the video the other day, my browser just gave "Page not available". However, I have seen it now and it answers most of the questions. All I have to do now is work out why the camera has captured some clips in mono and some in stereo.........or why premiere has captured some clips in a batch capture in mono and some in stereo........All show as stereo when I look at their properties in Premiere!! I think this afternoon will be spend recapturing.........................Nigel

October 24th, 2011, 09:11 AM	#14
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	Re: CS4 Captured-Audio locked on Tracks 3&4 ?? Perhaps clicking on "modify->audio channels" or clip->audio->source channel mapping will allow you to change the settings without recapture, unless you have already used these clips in the timeline? __________________ Creative Impatience - The Solace of Simple Solutions. A few useful plugins for Adobe users, and my remarks on the tools and the craft in general.