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Sanjin Svajger September 22nd, 2011 03:41 AM

Adobe Suite PRICING
 
Hi all,

does anybody know why everything from Adobe cost less then half in US then it does in EU?
On Amazon for example the Production Premium costs 826 dollars but on EU sites of Amazon the Production Premium cost around 2.000 €. That's more than 2.500 dollars! On the Italy Amazon.it the Suite goes for 2.300€!

Anybody? Is there a reason why I shouldn't buy from the US Amazon or any other US store for that matter? Or directly from Adobe?

Thx
Br
S

Ann Bens September 22nd, 2011 05:45 AM

Re: Adobe Suite PRICING
 
50% off is worldwide.
discount software | Adobe special offers

Erwin van Dijck September 22nd, 2011 05:48 AM

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But only production premium, not for example the master collection.

Sanjin Svajger September 22nd, 2011 06:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann Bens (Post 1683858)

Only if switching from Avid or Final Cut.

Amazon price doesn't say anything about switching...

Andrew Smith September 22nd, 2011 06:44 AM

Re: Adobe Suite PRICING
 
With regular pricing, the USA Adobe store is about half what we would pay in Australia for the exact same product. I whole-heartedly recommend buying direct from the USA store.

Have the physical package delivered to a friend / forwarding company in the USA and then onwards to yourself.

Andrew

Sanjin Svajger September 22nd, 2011 07:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Smith (Post 1683873)
Have the physical package delivered to a friend / forwarding company in the USA and then onwards to yourself.

And there won't be any problems regarding registration? I need the software to be registered to my company. And I would also like my company to buy the suite. If not I can't put it on the expense account of the firm...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Smith (Post 1683873)
With regular pricing, the USA Adobe store is about half what we would pay in Australia for the exact same product.

Yes. This is just outrageous.

Harm Millaard September 22nd, 2011 11:07 AM

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The only problem with buying from the US for non-US residents is that foreign credit cards are automatically refused by the Adobe store. I tried to order the MC CS5.5 from the US store and my credit card was refused. I had to get a US based company charge my credit card, order the MC from Adobe US, ship it to a friend, who then shipped it overseas.

Ridiculous and indeed the price difference (at least in my case) was about 100%. I spoke to one of the Adobe people at the IBC about this practice and he told me he knew and would take it up internally.

I wonder if it is even legal to discriminate legitimate buyers based on their country of origin?

Robert Young September 22nd, 2011 01:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Harm Millaard (Post 1683936)
I wonder if it is even legal to discriminate legitimate buyers based on their country of origin?

Pharmacutical companies do it all of the time...

Sanjin Svajger September 22nd, 2011 02:31 PM

Re: Adobe Suite PRICING
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harm Millaard (Post 1683936)
Ridiculous and indeed the price difference (at least in my case) was about 100%.

Even more then 100% price difference here! Production premium 820 dollars from Amazon and 2000€ from my local resellers!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harm Millaard (Post 1683936)
I wonder if it is even legal to discriminate legitimate buyers based on their country of origin?

Apparently it is... I don't get it. US folks have a much better life standard then we do, and get all the equipment alot cheaper. I guess that's the thing that raises the standard...

It's really hard to start or even keep going a business here. And this prices aren't helping at all...

Ann Bens September 22nd, 2011 04:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanjin Svajger (Post 1683868)
Only if switching from Avid or Final Cut.

Amazon price doesn't say anything about switching...

Looks to me Amazon already put in the discount

When upgrading an Adobe product you get the same discount from Adobe.
This special offer ends october 31.

I bought a copy in the USA, registrating is not a problem.

Gregory Gesch September 22nd, 2011 05:09 PM

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A word of warning, be aware of your own countries import and custom laws. For example in Australia anything with a value over $1,000 is liable to a GST (government sales tax) of 10% and customs duty (0% on Software when I did it). Your parcel will be held by the Customs Department. To get it released you need to fill in numerous forms, have to chase up all the relevent Customs information and code numbers for yourself, supply reciepts and cash conversion as at the time of the purchase. The customs help personnel give no support for any of this and in my case the code number was left out of their official on-line catalogue (which after many phone calls - hours of punching in numbers and being on hold - I finally begged someone to check and was told just to put in the first couple of numbers, which was then refused by the next person up the food chain, and of course you never talk to the same person twice). The other complication is that you have to register as an importer (for yourself) and also register the supplier which includes getting information from them including contact names and phone numbers of their head staff, numerous addresses etc. You also then have to verify your identity and supply relevent documents. As this is all going through a Government Department..., need I say more. Having gone through this once it would have to be a gigantic saving for me to go through it again. Here, under $1,000 you're fine, over that get ready for the frustrations and headaches.

Andrew Smith September 22nd, 2011 07:49 PM

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In my experience the credit card was accepted, no problems.

I was able to do my video Production Premium upgrade for $800 USD instead of $1440+ AUD, and being under the $1000 mark I had no issues with GST duty upon import.

I did note at the time that for a couple of hundred dollars more than the Aussie upgrade price I can purchase the full new suite at the American price. That's how obscene it really is when you consider that it's the exact same product.

With my Matrox MXO2 which I purchased through VideoGuys.com (tip of hat to Gary), there was GST payable on it which was calculated / lodged / handled automatically by the UPS freight people. Kind of miffed that customs charges the GST on the value of the purchase and the value of the freight and insurance.

I'd definitely keep my purchases under $1000 wherever possible. :-)

Andrew

Michael Wisniewski September 22nd, 2011 08:46 PM

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The problem is usually import taxes that are levied by countries on a goods brought in from another country, even software sold over the internet but using a company registered to do business locally. Just ask the British, so close to B&H and yet sometimes it feels so far. Another example, in the Philippines, any new hardware you buy is generally 25% higher in price because of import taxes. Just trying shipping something there legally or simply ship it across the border from New York to Canada and watch what happens.

Countries with competitive practices like Hong Kong, Singapore, and yes even the United States, all have nearly similar pricing. But the sheer volume of sales in the U.S. really makes it one of best places to shop bar none.

Andrew Smith September 22nd, 2011 09:01 PM

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Whilst there is a comparatively minor tariff on software imports in Australia, I think the biggest issue is that Adobe feels the need to retain their traditional sales channel through Apple dealers and other software retail stores which need to have a 30% profit margin on what they sell. Hence the cost of Adobe software in Australia is higher in order to cover this.

Well, that's my theory on it. :-)

Andrew

Sanjin Svajger September 23rd, 2011 04:44 AM

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Now I'm really confused...is the promotional price only when switching or is it a general discount?

Andrew Smith September 23rd, 2011 05:15 AM

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The promotional price is for those who are switching away from Final Cut Pro.

Andrew

Ann Bens September 23rd, 2011 08:21 AM

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An Adobe software owner who wants to upgrade can also benifit.
http://store.adobe.com/store/en_us/p...off_pr_pp.html

Simon Wood September 23rd, 2011 08:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Smith (Post 1684116)
The promotional price is for those who are switching away from Final Cut Pro.

Andrew

However you are not required to provide any proof that you actually own Final Cut Pro or Avid, so really its open to anyone.

Andrew Smith September 23rd, 2011 02:08 PM

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I was wondering about that (eligibility requirement enforcement) but was hesitant to say as I haven't 'been there'.

Maybe someone at Adobe marketing has a sense of humor? :-)

Andrew

Sanjin Svajger September 24th, 2011 03:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Wood (Post 1684157)
However you are not required to provide any proof that you actually own Final Cut Pro or Avid, so really its open to anyone.

Really? So if I go to my local reseller and say I want to buy the suite at the promotional "switch" price they won't ask me for proof? I kinda doubt it... Would be nice though...

Marcus Durham September 24th, 2011 08:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Smith (Post 1684116)
The promotional price is for those who are switching away from Final Cut Pro.

Andrew

Except they never asked for any proof that I own a copy of FCP (I do) when I switched. So as long as you have the code it appears to be open to anyone.

Andrew Smith September 24th, 2011 09:00 AM

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I'm not surprised in a way. Just as we have to wait for a while for the downloadable trial versions to come out, it would also take them a fair bit of time (and away from programming the wonder-features for CS6) to create and manufacture a specific version that asked for proof of FCP ownership upon install.

Especially with the speed at which Adobe offered the 'switch' discount to disaffected FCP owners. There simply wouldn't have been the time.

Andrew

Sanjin Svajger September 24th, 2011 09:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Smith (Post 1684368)
it would also take them a fair bit of time to create and manufacture a specific version that asked for proof of FCP ownership upon install.

Yes, off course. But it's the reseller who should ask for proof of FCP/Avid ownership in the first place not the program. And this is what I am having a hard time believing. I'll try this in the next week. I'll ask my local reseller for the switch promotion and see if they ask for proof of ownership or something... I doubt that they would just hand the suite with 50% discount without me handing them some proof of Avid/FCP ownership.

Simon Wood September 24th, 2011 11:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanjin Svajger (Post 1684369)
Yes, off course. But it's the reseller who should ask for proof of FCP/Avid ownership in the first place not the program. And this is what I am having a hard time believing. I'll try this in the next week. I'll ask my local reseller for the switch promotion and see if they ask for proof of ownership or something... I doubt that they would just hand the suite with 50% discount without me handing them some proof of Avid/FCP ownership.

They just want the code. You can buy it online and I can assure you they are not asking for you to prove you have a copy of FCP or Avid by sending in photos of you sitting at your workstation holding your old disks.

Sanjin Svajger September 24th, 2011 12:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Wood (Post 1684396)
They just want the code. You can buy it online...

What code? The serial? It can be bought on line?

Marcus Durham September 24th, 2011 01:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanjin Svajger (Post 1684369)
Yes, off course. But it's the reseller who should ask for proof of FCP/Avid ownership in the first place not the program. And this is what I am having a hard time believing. I'll try this in the next week. I'll ask my local reseller for the switch promotion and see if they ask for proof of ownership or something... I doubt that they would just hand the suite with 50% discount without me handing them some proof of Avid/FCP ownership.

You buy it online from Adobe. Even if you prefer physical DVD's, you still do this through Adobe and they send you the disks.

I have no idea what the arrangements for resellers are, but it's 2011 and frankly buying software through a third party is pointless unless they have some special offer.

Sanjin Svajger September 25th, 2011 04:53 AM

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I tried to go the Adobe store and proceeded to checkout where one must type in the code. If I understand it correctly all that you have to do is to type in "SWITCH" and that's it. Didn't see no requests for a product serial or anything.

Has anybody done this? Does the request come at a later time?

Simon Wood September 25th, 2011 06:11 AM

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That is all they want. The promotional code is SWITCH.

Marcus Durham September 25th, 2011 02:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanjin Svajger (Post 1684481)
I tried to go the Adobe store and proceeded to checkout where one must type in the code. If I understand it correctly all that you have to do is to type in "SWITCH" and that's it. Didn't see no requests for a product serial or anything.

Has anybody done this? Does the request come at a later time?

I refer you to post number 21. All you need is the promotional code which is SWITCH. They have done no checking with me.

Dan Asseff September 25th, 2011 04:17 PM

Re: Adobe Suite PRICING
 
I bought it from videoguys and also got a 5% discount on top of the sale price for being a DVinfo member.
Videoguys.com - Now In Stock

The secret is that it is a promotional thing, I think any body can get the discount.
Dan

Andrew Smith September 25th, 2011 11:05 PM

Re: Adobe Suite PRICING
 
Just be on the look out for men in dark suits, okay?

Andrew :-P

Sanjin Svajger September 26th, 2011 12:48 AM

Re: Adobe Suite PRICING
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Durham (Post 1684555)
I refer you to post number 21. All you need is the promotional code which is SWITCH. They have done no checking with me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Asseff (Post 1684579)
I bought it from videoguys and also got a 5% discount on top of the sale price for being a DVinfo member.
Videoguys.com - Now In Stock

The secret is that it is a promotional thing, I think any body can get the discount.
Dan

Great guys! Thanks for the info!:)

It's what I was getting at to. Thank you for confirming it...

Rob Katz September 27th, 2011 02:32 PM

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anyone think adobe will continue the "switch" promo past september 30th?

be well

rob
smalltalk productions

Dan Asseff September 27th, 2011 03:12 PM

Re: Adobe Suite PRICING
 
I don't think so. I think the reason they are doing it is to get Final Cut users to come to there side.

Dan

Andy Wilkinson September 28th, 2011 01:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Katz (Post 1684990)
anyone think adobe will continue the "switch" promo past september 30th?

I doubt it...so its decision time (I might be wrong!)

I bought CS 5.5 Production Premium last week but alas have not had time to really try it out yet, due to edit deadlines with existing FCS2 projects (other than Photoshop - since I used PS Elements all the time - so its great to have the full version now).

Looking forward to Audition (Soundtrack Pro was often too clunky for me) and especially AE. From what I've read/seen the transition from FCP to PPro should be relatively painless - I hope!

By their own admission Apple's many necessary "fixes" for FCPX are going to be many months or perhaps even years away (if ever...?) so I'd rather go with a company that is totally committed to video professionals whilst the pricing is attainable.

Sanjin Svajger September 28th, 2011 01:53 AM

Re: Adobe Suite PRICING
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Asseff (Post 1685003)
I don't think so. I think the reason they are doing it is to get Final Cut users to come to there side.

Dan

As I understand it the offer ends on October 30 not September. See the terms and conditions: Terms and conditions

Andy Wilkinson September 28th, 2011 02:17 AM

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That's news to me as everything I'd seen previously had 30th Sep as the cut-off date for AVID and FCS switchers. Cool!

Rob Katz September 28th, 2011 02:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanjin Svajger (Post 1685088)
As I understand it the offer ends on October 30 not September. See the terms and conditions: Terms and conditions

sanjin-

thank you for the link.

now i can wait till october 29th to decide!

be well

rob
smalltalk productions

Dan Asseff September 28th, 2011 04:09 PM

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Rob,

I talked to Video Guys today and he said they are only running the special till Friday. I would buy from them you get a bunch of other stuff on top of the suit. This is the package I got it is unbelievable all you get, plus a DVinfo 5% on top of the sale. Videoguys.com - Search for "CS55PPSWBD"

Dan

Peter Rush September 29th, 2011 03:20 AM

Re: Adobe Suite PRICING - Mad River Shops £419
 
These guys are advertising CS5.5 for £419

Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 - PC - download [65107641] - £419.20 : MadRiverShops.com

You download the trial and then purchase the ulocking serial number off them

I'm sort of tempted if it's legitimate

Anyone had experience of them?


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