Why is Premiere struggling? at DVinfo.net

Tariq Peter · March 28th, 2012, 12:26 PM

I have a 2 x 2.26 Ghz Quad Core Intel Xeon with 16GB 1066 Mhz DDR ram and 4TB raid which is made up of 2 x Western Digital 2TB black drives. I also have a Radeon ATI HD 4870 512MB Graphics card.

My Sequence is set to Editing Mode : DSLR 25fps 1920 x 1080.
When I drop a clip which is 1920 x 1080p into the sequence and try to play it back it struggles and jumps/hangs from frame to frame. I tried changing the playback quality of the clip to 1/4 but it still struggles and simply fails to play smoothly.

Am I missing a setting?

Thanks

Colin Rowe · March 28th, 2012, 01:57 PM

What version of Premiere ?

Frank Glencairn · March 28th, 2012, 03:09 PM

ATI card &Premiere = bad idea.

Only Nvida Cuda cards are supporting the Mercury engine.

Here is some in deep information: Premiere Pro Benchmark for CS5

Frank

Colin Rowe · March 28th, 2012, 03:21 PM

If its version 5 or 5.5 here is a pretty comprehensive list of recommended graphics cards, plus detailed info of other cards that can be used to enable the Mercury playback engine.
Adobe Premiere CS5 and Premiere CS5.5 Video Cards with CUDA Acceleration Mercury Playback Unlock Enable MPE Hack Mod Tip

Lee Mullen · March 29th, 2012, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Glencairn

ATI card &Premiere = bad idea.

Only Nvida Cuda cards are supporting the Mercury engine.

Here is some in deep information: Premiere Pro Benchmark for CS5

Frank

I have an Nvidia Cuda card and CS5.5 still pops and farts! Adobe, this is not good enough!

Paul R Johnson · March 29th, 2012, 07:03 AM

I know this won't help, but my video card isn't on the list, so I edited the file to allow premiere to use it and it's nice and smooth - so I'd look at checking you have the latest drivers, and also have no strange processes running?

Buba Kastorski · March 29th, 2012, 07:33 AM

Because this is Adobe Premiere Pro, it is a power hungry beast;
open your Task Manager and take a look at the resources usage before and after starting application, i run PP and AE on blazing fast PC with quadro FX and RAID 0 on SSDs, and it still "pops and farts" for the luck of a better word.
that's why i edit on Vegas

Tariq Peter · March 29th, 2012, 09:11 AM

I am using 5.5 on a Mac Pro. My applications all run off a SSD.

Final Cut X has no issues but Premier is poor for me. I heard so many great things but on a system like mine it should be flying

Panagiotis Raris · March 29th, 2012, 08:59 PM

your bottlenecks appear to be

A) non-CUDA enabled graphics card (ATI)
B) non-optimized hard drive setup

Sell/Trade that ATI card for a 1GB Nvidia GTX2xx or higher card (no more than $150)
Get some more HDD's and perhaps a RAID controller card with its own RAM and processor (ARECA etc)

what type of RAID array do you have? maybe look into an SSD as a boot/install drive, a 2 disc RAID array (i assume RAID 1, as RAID 0 would be suicidal) is pretty ineffective.

Your stuttering playback is mostly due to non-CUDA graphics card. I would bet my (ancient, circa 2007) quad core 2.4Ghz with 8GB of RAM, 9800GTX and SSD/4 Disk RAID0 Scratch/2 Disk RAID 0 Delivery would play back and export faster than your 8 core with more RAM, due to CUDA enabled graphics and a better hard drive setup.

March 28th, 2012, 12:26 PM	#1
Tariq Peter Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Manchester England Posts: 435	Why is Premiere struggling? I have a 2 x 2.26 Ghz Quad Core Intel Xeon with 16GB 1066 Mhz DDR ram and 4TB raid which is made up of 2 x Western Digital 2TB black drives. I also have a Radeon ATI HD 4870 512MB Graphics card. My Sequence is set to Editing Mode : DSLR 25fps 1920 x 1080. When I drop a clip which is 1920 x 1080p into the sequence and try to play it back it struggles and jumps/hangs from frame to frame. I tried changing the playback quality of the clip to 1/4 but it still struggles and simply fails to play smoothly. Am I missing a setting? Thanks

March 28th, 2012, 01:57 PM	#2
Colin Rowe Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cornwall UK Posts: 793	re: Why is Premiere struggling? What version of Premiere ? __________________ Colin

March 28th, 2012, 03:09 PM	#3
Frank Glencairn Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 176	re: Why is Premiere struggling? ATI card &Premiere = bad idea. Only Nvida Cuda cards are supporting the Mercury engine. Here is some in deep information: Premiere Pro Benchmark for CS5 Frank

March 28th, 2012, 03:21 PM	#4
Colin Rowe Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cornwall UK Posts: 793	re: Why is Premiere struggling? If its version 5 or 5.5 here is a pretty comprehensive list of recommended graphics cards, plus detailed info of other cards that can be used to enable the Mercury playback engine. Adobe Premiere CS5 and Premiere CS5.5 Video Cards with CUDA Acceleration Mercury Playback Unlock Enable MPE Hack Mod Tip __________________ Colin

March 29th, 2012, 07:03 AM	#6
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,015	Re: Why is Premiere struggling? I know this won't help, but my video card isn't on the list, so I edited the file to allow premiere to use it and it's nice and smooth - so I'd look at checking you have the latest drivers, and also have no strange processes running?

March 29th, 2012, 07:33 AM	#7
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	Re: Why is Premiere struggling? Because this is Adobe Premiere Pro, it is a power hungry beast; open your Task Manager and take a look at the resources usage before and after starting application, i run PP and AE on blazing fast PC with quadro FX and RAID 0 on SSDs, and it still "pops and farts" for the luck of a better word. that's why i edit on Vegas __________________ I love this place!

March 29th, 2012, 09:11 AM	#8
Tariq Peter Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Manchester England Posts: 435	Re: Why is Premiere struggling? I am using 5.5 on a Mac Pro. My applications all run off a SSD. Final Cut X has no issues but Premier is poor for me. I heard so many great things but on a system like mine it should be flying

March 29th, 2012, 08:59 PM	#9
Panagiotis Raris Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Reading, PA USA and Athens, Greece Posts: 269	Re: Why is Premiere struggling? your bottlenecks appear to be A) non-CUDA enabled graphics card (ATI) B) non-optimized hard drive setup Sell/Trade that ATI card for a 1GB Nvidia GTX2xx or higher card (no more than $150) Get some more HDD's and perhaps a RAID controller card with its own RAM and processor (ARECA etc) what type of RAID array do you have? maybe look into an SSD as a boot/install drive, a 2 disc RAID array (i assume RAID 1, as RAID 0 would be suicidal) is pretty ineffective. Your stuttering playback is mostly due to non-CUDA graphics card. I would bet my (ancient, circa 2007) quad core 2.4Ghz with 8GB of RAM, 9800GTX and SSD/4 Disk RAID0 Scratch/2 Disk RAID 0 Delivery would play back and export faster than your 8 core with more RAM, due to CUDA enabled graphics and a better hard drive setup.