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Alan James · April 14th, 2007, 02:42 AM

I’m looking for some plug-ins that will do the following things.

1) A plug-ins for PP2 that will allow me to add optical fades? (I like the look of optical fades over digital ones)

2) A plug-in that will make PP2s transitions more like FCP, where all I have to do is click on the cut between the two clips and select the transition I want to add from a pop up menu?

3) A plug-in that will change the crappy multiclip function to be just like FCP. (in final cut you just select your clips, right click, and from the pop out menu select make multiclip, then select either by timecode or by start/end points)

I don’t know if any of these plug-ins exist but if ANY do please help me out by telling me where to get them. Thanx.

Steven Gotz · April 14th, 2007, 09:52 AM

All joking aside, perhaps you should use FCP?

I don't believe that any such plugins are available (or necessary for that matter). Except perhaps for the optical fades.

Mike Teutsch · April 14th, 2007, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Gotz

All joking aside, perhaps you should use FCP?

I don't believe that any such plugins are available (or necessary for that matter). Except perhaps for the optical fades.

Exactly what I was thinking! Haha

Please explain the difference between digital and optical fades. If all of the footage is digital, wouldn't the fades be only digital too?

Edicate me. :)

Mike

Steven Gotz · April 14th, 2007, 10:50 AM

I don't know about optical fades, but they sound interesting? Did the fades created in the old days by the printers look different?

Mike Teutsch · April 14th, 2007, 10:57 AM

All I can think of is using lens' iris to fade in and out, but that can't be applied to digital footage already shot can it? What do you do, hold the lens up to the computer screen?

Mike---:)

Alan James · April 14th, 2007, 06:26 PM

The reason I don't use Final Cut at home is because I have a PC, so PP is my at home NLE. Optical fade are slightly different then digital ones. Its easier to see but unfortunately I don't have any footage of the two side by side.

In an optical printer the film is run through and reprojected back to another piece of film. For a fade an iris between the two pieces is slowly closed so that the reprojected image fades out. This makes the darker areas disappear first and the bright areas disappear last. Just like turning your f-stop up. The light areas stay light until the last few frames.

Digital fades bring everything down to black evenly. This means dark areas turn black as light areas turn gray. Light areas in digital fades are gray the last few frames, rather then staying light as they are in optical fades.

It's to bad that I don't have any video comparisons of it, but check out some 35mm movies that have optical fades to black, then try the same thing in your NLE and you will see a difference.

Steven Gotz · April 14th, 2007, 07:57 PM

I had a feeling. OK, so perhaps all you need to do to recreate that is to animate the levels. Or animate them in combination with a fade.

There may be some transitions like that available, but it might be something you can keyframe for free.

Alan James · April 14th, 2007, 10:54 PM

Yeah I have experimented with animated levels combined with fades and I cant get it to look right. I thought I'd make it easy on myself and just ask on here, besides I don't want to have to re animate every fade I add, that would be a pain some kinda plug in would be best.

April 14th, 2007, 02:42 AM	#1
Alan James Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 261	PP2 plug-ins I’m looking for some plug-ins that will do the following things. 1) A plug-ins for PP2 that will allow me to add optical fades? (I like the look of optical fades over digital ones) 2) A plug-in that will make PP2s transitions more like FCP, where all I have to do is click on the cut between the two clips and select the transition I want to add from a pop up menu? 3) A plug-in that will change the crappy multiclip function to be just like FCP. (in final cut you just select your clips, right click, and from the pop out menu select make multiclip, then select either by timecode or by start/end points) I don’t know if any of these plug-ins exist but if ANY do please help me out by telling me where to get them. Thanx.

April 14th, 2007, 09:52 AM	#2
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	All joking aside, perhaps you should use FCP? I don't believe that any such plugins are available (or necessary for that matter). Except perhaps for the optical fades. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

April 14th, 2007, 10:50 AM	#4
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	I don't know about optical fades, but they sound interesting? Did the fades created in the old days by the printers look different? __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

April 14th, 2007, 10:57 AM	#5
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	All I can think of is using lens' iris to fade in and out, but that can't be applied to digital footage already shot can it? What do you do, hold the lens up to the computer screen? Mike---:) __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

April 14th, 2007, 07:57 PM	#7
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	I had a feeling. OK, so perhaps all you need to do to recreate that is to animate the levels. Or animate them in combination with a fade. There may be some transitions like that available, but it might be something you can keyframe for free. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

April 14th, 2007, 06:26 PM	#6
Alan James Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 261	The reason I don't use Final Cut at home is because I have a PC, so PP is my at home NLE. Optical fade are slightly different then digital ones. Its easier to see but unfortunately I don't have any footage of the two side by side. In an optical printer the film is run through and reprojected back to another piece of film. For a fade an iris between the two pieces is slowly closed so that the reprojected image fades out. This makes the darker areas disappear first and the bright areas disappear last. Just like turning your f-stop up. The light areas stay light until the last few frames. Digital fades bring everything down to black evenly. This means dark areas turn black as light areas turn gray. Light areas in digital fades are gray the last few frames, rather then staying light as they are in optical fades. It's to bad that I don't have any video comparisons of it, but check out some 35mm movies that have optical fades to black, then try the same thing in your NLE and you will see a difference.

April 14th, 2007, 10:54 PM	#8
Alan James Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 261	Yeah I have experimented with animated levels combined with fades and I cant get it to look right. I thought I'd make it easy on myself and just ask on here, besides I don't want to have to re animate every fade I add, that would be a pain some kinda plug in would be best.